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Armchair-GM
25 juin 2019 à 14 h 11
Sujet:
Gus - Anisimov - Puljujarvi trades - Lee signing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>If Lee leaves the Isles I think Chicago is where he goes, and the contract is accurate (may go to 7m).</div></div>
I think he’s all but gone with the Isles. If he signs a 7 year deal, I wouldn’t want the Hawks to go any higher than 6.75.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 23 h 46
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danville1999</b></div><div>But again...with Seabrook's no-move clause, you can't assume he'll agree to be traded anywhere. What if he refuses? Nobody is trading for Seabrook. Every team is just waiting for him to be bought out.</div></div>
In this scenario, I assume that he waives to be traded. Obviously, it’s a pipe dream, but a dream that could conceivably come true.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 23 h 29
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danville1999</b></div><div>Two issues with this rebuild version...
1) I'm of the opinion that you don't think you need to trade Seabrook. It'll take a 1st and probably a 2nd to unload his contract and why do that to your future? If Seabrook starts out the season as a 3rd-line D player or even a 7th D-man on the roster and struggles early, why couldn't the Hawks just decide to buy him out? That seems like a reasonable solution for everybody AND what's to say Seabrook doesn't pull a Phil Kessel and refuse any trade anyway? Why set yourself up for such a PR disaster at that point?
2) Bowman says he wants to keep Perlini so I'd add him to the forwards for next year. Plus I'm not in the camp that believes the Hawks will try to rush Dach to NHL roster by the season opener. If he has to start in Rockford, why not?</div></div>
I wouldn’t look at this as a rebuild and more of a retool. With the de Haan trade today, the Hawks have vastly improved their D core in the last two weeks. Dealing Seabrook gives them financial flexibility, which in my opinion justifies paying the price to deal him. I would be fine keeping Perlini, but I think the Hawks should see how much Puljujärvi would as cost as he’s very talented and has been misused in EDM.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 23 h 12
Sujet:
Ideas
Replace Boqvist with Beaudin and you have a deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 23 h 4
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>Realistically, the hawks are better off trying to trade Keith and say a 3rd to the panthers for Hoffman. Logic being he is still serviceable, he could be the mentor ekblad badly needs, and it opens up the spot for Panarin. While I know it wouldn’t change their cap situation, I think the panthers might go it with Q down there.</div></div>
You are correct and that is much more realistic than my proposal. I would love that for the Hawks, but I think they would have to give up more than a 3rd to get Hoffman. Maybe a 2nd a mid tier forward prospect.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 58
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Did I miss something? Why is everyone willing to over pay to get Puljujärvi? This one isn't that bad I've seen a couple that give away more than the Rangers gave to get Trouba.</div></div>
In fairness, I don’t think this is an overpay. Puljujärvi is very talented and I see Perlini at best being a 25 goal-55 point scorer and Quenneville at best being a 3rd liner. I think Puljujärvi has the potential to be a 70-80 point winger.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 54
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div>Fair, I don't see why they wouldn't make this deal, all their bad contracts expire within 3 years. Why not take the additional assets? I personally think it's overpay by the hawks.</div></div>
It definitely is an overpay, but it will it take an overpay to get rid of Seabrook.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 52
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>The leafs were in cap hell, teams are probably much less willing to help them than the Hawks, but yeah, it's still going to be super expensive to get rid of Seabrook</div></div>
I 100% agree with you on all your statements.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 49
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>The reason the Canucks would do it if they knew there was a compliance buyout in two years before the expansion draft...The buyout would cost the Canucks 8m in actually cash and then they would cap free. Maybe that would make it worth it. But I think the Hawks are thinking the same thing....Two years of Seabrook.</div></div>
I think you’re right that Hawks are thinking the same vis a vis a buyout for Seabrook. My hope is that Bowman is aggressive to move Seabrook and improve the forward core while leaving plenty of room for next summer’s RFAs.
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Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 45
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div>I think VAN has to at least consider it. Eriksson, Beagle, Schaller, and Roussel all come of the books within 3 years. They have the space for Hughes, Pettersson extensions. They get a 1st and a real good LD prospect.</div></div>
The JT Miller trade shows me that Benning believes his team can make the postseason. Hopefully he would see this as another veteran boost to their team while also helping the future by recouping some nice assets.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 43
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yourgoodfriendluke</b></div><div>Could maybe do something with Loui Eriksson, could be a good change to motivate him</div></div>
That would give the Hawks about $1M in cap savings and the potential for a solid top-9 forward. Additionally, Eriksson would only be on the books for 3 years compared to Seabrook’s 5 years. I wouldn’t be opposed to that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 40
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Gee, the Leaf had to trade one first rounder for one year of Marleau, maybe the Hawks have to pay the equivalent of five first rounders for five years of Seabrook^^</div></div>
Haha I feel you on that. Luckily the Hawks aren’t in as dire of a position as the Leafs were with Marleau. Either way, it will cost them a lot to even have the chance of moving Seabrook’s contract
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 37
Sujet:
Give me feedback on this Seabrook trade and offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blackhawks_Legend_Rob_Scuderi</b></div><div>I mean, Vancouver is <em>really</em> going to have to like Beaudin if they'll take Seabrook without retention of any kind.
You've got space for another decent signing like Pavelski, Ferland, Dzingel, etc.</div></div>
Well my thought was that VAN doesn’t have a 2020 1st and this would give them one in addition to a very good D prospect. I agree that this allows for Dzingel or Pavelski, but I don’t know who I would subtract from the forward core.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 26
Sujet:
Wait A Second Forsberg Is Gone
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juin 2019 à 23 h 44
Sujet:
Revisionist History
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Dach is going to be a heck of a player. Don't hate them going centre over taking Byram, but how do you not go Cozens there?</div></div>
That’s the main problem I have with the pick. I’m fine with the Hawks taking a center over Byram but I would have taken Turcotte, Zegras, or Cozens over him. I hope I’m wrong and he becomes a 1C but I see 2C as his ceiling.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juin 2019 à 23 h 23
Sujet:
Revisionist History
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Sens fans are licking their chops. Some great players fell to the 2nd round</div></div>
As they should. I, along with every Hawks fan, am still trying to wrap my head around picking Dach at 3OA
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 juin 2019 à 0 h 37
Sujet:
Possible and Realistic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newman23</b></div><div>These moves are pretty good but dont think filppula is the 3C they go after. Need someone better at the dot and on the pk</div></div>
Hopefully they take Turcotte at 3 and have him fill in as 3C after this year. The more I read and more I think about it, I think Bowman might bring back Kruger on a 1 year deal and have Kampf as the 3C
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2019 à 23 h 19
Sujet:
Speed and defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>I'm not going to pretend that I know Chicago's players very well, but maybe Caggiula or Kahun could fill that spot? And then sign a better winger with Filppula's $?</div></div>
I would be very happy with Caggiula or Kahun, but neither of them are centers. Also, I wouldn’t want to give any more than a one year deal to a 3C with the pending RFAs (DeBrincat, Strome, Kahun, Kubalik) the Hawks will have to extend next summer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 juin 2019 à 15 h 17
Sujet:
Speed and defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>That's a lot for Filppula</div></div>
It’s a 1-year deal though. I’m hoping the Hawks take Turcotte and then Turcotte takes Filppula’s spot as the 3C in 2020-2021. I overpaid for him because I think he may get some cheap 2 year offers, and he would be the ideal stop gap at 3C.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin 2019 à 18 h 35
Sujet:
Improving the defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Socially_Hawkward_Podcast</b></div><div>I don't think the values are that far off but those two teams can't really afford to take on much cap. I can see them making trades without sending out some cap</div></div>
Maybe the Hawks could take back someone like Hunwick for BUF, and have him as a 7th D-man for 1 year to help alleviate some of the cap hit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin 2019 à 18 h 21
Sujet:
Improving the defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vmach</b></div><div>Gus to FLA? LOL
To play for Q? LOL
I guess thats one way Talon can tell Q, I'm watching you man. If Gus's production drops to under 60 points, you are fired. LOL
No, c'mon, Q's system is not something Gus will strive under, and although I agree 1st rounder is good for him, but it will not be FL who should offer it.</div></div>
Believe me, I was beyond frustrated to constantly see Gus in Q’s doghouse, but I was more just looking at their defense depth chart and basing the trade destination off of that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin 2019 à 18 h 20
Sujet:
Improving the defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Petrock83</b></div><div>If you have to trade Gus and Saad, why not combine the two and get a top 15 pick this year? Them together could get a really good haul from Edmonton or Buffalo.</div></div>
Do you think that Gus and Saad along with maybe the Hawks’ 2nd rounder could get them the 7OA from BUF or 8OA from EDM? I really just don’t have a clear idea what Saad and Gus’ true values are.
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Armchair-GM
6 juin 2019 à 16 h 46
Sujet:
Cap Space and picks
It’s definitely going to need to be way more going to FLA than a 2nd rounder even if Tallon and Q love Seabs and really want him. You’re going to need to include at least someone like Beaudin and maybe two more 2nds or a 2nd plus a conditional 1st. As for the LAK deal, it’s an underpayment. To get the 5OA from a team that is rebuilding their prospect pool, you are going to need to surrender at least Boqvist, 2019 2nd, and 2020 1st to get the conversation started. LAK is not looking to take on Saad’s contract and one year of Gus.
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Armchair-GM
6 juin 2019 à 16 h 34
Sujet:
Aggressive offseason for Stan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Petrock83</b></div><div>This was the first time in Connolly's career that he scored more than 30 points. Saad has hit 50 multiple times. Not only that, but Saad was our best defensive forward this past year, playing high PK minutes and not allowing easy goals, unlike most of the rest of the team. Saad is a top 6 forward, which many people don't see because all they look at are points, and Connolly just isn't and never will be.
As for the defense, Dahlstrom and Koekkoek are depth guys, maybe #6 defensemen on a bad team. If you are getting Murray, you can have a top 6 with Keith, Gus, Joki, Murray, Murphy, and Seabs with Koekkoek as the #7. That's a hell of a lot better than last year. They signed Koekkoek and Dahlstrom to small deals because they expect to send them between the AHL and NHL.</div></div>
I see the points that you’re making and I agree with the sentiments. I just personally am not a huge Saad fan and don’t think he is worth 6 mil. Honestly I would love a top 6 of Murray, Murphy, Gus, Joki, Keith, and Seabs. I’m fine replacing Connolly with Caggiula and having that D-core.
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Armchair-GM
6 juin 2019 à 16 h 31
Sujet:
Aggressive offseason for Stan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>The guy can also out skate and out play some of the best in the league though. He has some of the best even strength numbers in recent years including being top5 in even strength goals. He is definitely worth 9 as of right now.</div></div>
Oh I’m with you on how great of a 5 on 5 goal scorer he is, and that he’s a great skater as well. I think it’s just going to be hard for him to find comparables to his production for the 9 mil price tag. If he doesn’t budge on that price then the Hawks have to pass on him. They can’t be strapped to so many high cap hit contracts that hamstring them in the future.
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