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Forum: Armchair-GM22 juill. 2023 à 11 h 57
Forum: Armchair-GM22 juill. 2023 à 11 h 15
Forum: Armchair-GM21 juill. 2023 à 18 h 49
Sujet: Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>Caps and Leafs fans on this site (and really every fan tbh) can't ever parse out the very different realities of what a player is actually "worth," how a generic NHL GM values certain roles, and what specific teams <em>will</em> do versus what they <em>should</em> do.

Objectively by any WAR-type stat Nylander is "worth" a whole lot, probably the amount of futures being offered here if not more. I don't really think any fan of any team would dispute that. The problem for the Leafs is that correctly or not, NHL GMs <strong>do not</strong> value scoring wingers in the last year of their deals that are about to get paid big money quite as highly. This is incredibly obvious from recent trades -- Fiala, DeBrincat (twice), Meier, Bertuzzi, Stone, even some centers like PLD and Eichel. The <strong>only</strong> player traded recently to get the type of return they are actually close to being "worth" is Tkachuk, an MVP caliber player on a different playing field than all the ones I just listed. NHL GM's probably are also very put off by what has been reported so far as Nylander's (justifiably) massive contract demands.

Finally, there are the team-specific things. Leafs fans need to understand that no matter what he "should" do, BMac has made it abundantly clear through media channels that he is not trading Wilson even for an upgrade in the form of Nylander. Obviously I do not follow Toronto media or rumors as closely, but I assume that the Leafs would like to get back some form of top NHL talent back in a Nylander deal and Caps fans need to understand that as well.

For all of these reasons, I don't really see any trade scenario that makes sense for both teams around Nylander (or Wilson for that matter), especially this one that doesn't really solve anyone's problems.</div></div>

Very well put. I really don't think a Leafs/Caps Nylander trade is going to happen either, especially without Wilson going to Toronto. But it is fun to speculate. I do think it will cost quite a bit for Nylander. Out of all the players you mentioned, Nylander would be 3rd or 4th best(Behind Tkachuk, Eichel and possibly Stone), so I think Toronto will get a decent haul if they do trade him.

I don't think Nylander @$10mil is that absurd. Would be hard to swallow at the current cap limit, but if the cap goes up $3-$4 mil next year, it won't seem nearly as hefty.

Thanks again for your comment, good to see some sound reasoning and clear communication:)
Forum: Armchair-GM21 juill. 2023 à 17 h 10
Sujet: Nylander
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 31