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Forum: Chicago Blackhawks30 juin 2021 à 13 h 40
Sujet: Poison Chalice
There's actually even more "controversial" items that you didn't mention. The stripper song that went on for years, The controversial logo, Standing by Marc Crawford, etc... For the record...on the logo I'm personally fine with changing the logo, but keeping the name. I do think the organization has done a pretty good job with recognition and honoring chief Black Hawk and the Sauk Tribe...with that said, they can always do more and i hope they do increase that cultural acknowledgment awareness. Also, with Marc Crawford, I do believe in second chances. He seems to have the players with him and supporting him.

Anyway, when it comes to this specific instance. I want to get all the information. We need the FBI (or equivalent) to seriously find out what happened and why this wasn't reported. There are too many "he said, she said" items out there. Marc Bergevin says he knew nothing. Paul Vincent says everyone knew. It's not possible to be both, but it's probably a good start to go subpoena Paul Vincent for information. Saying "Everyone Knew" and other coaches not agreeing with that sentiment...is VERY odd. It makes me think he might be the one that didn't try very hard to report this. From my point of view, the investigation needs to find out where the buck stopped exactly and which person (or group of people) failed in their duties. If it was incompetency vs choosing to be neglectful...that intent matters to me on whether jail time is warranted. If this goes all the way up to Rocky...I would be in favor of the NHL forcing a sale of the team much like the NBA did with the Clippers.

On the other end of the spectrum though...I tend to NOT have a scorched earth policy. Meaning, I don't blame the ticket sales man. I don't blame the beer vender. (Obviously a bit of an exaggeration to expand on that point) There is someone (or group) responsible for this. Did Aldrich's direct boss keep the intel to himself? Did his direct boss report the problem and try to actively fix this situation so that no one else needed to put up with Aldrich? I simply don't have those answers. If Aldrich's direct boss truly did everything in his power...I'm probably not blaming him either. It all depends on what actually comes out. I'm not typically the person that thinks Coach Q should be fired from the Panthers unless he's found to be part of a cover up. Same goes for Marc Bergevin. He's publicly said that he had no idea that was going on. An investigation needs to occur to find out if that's true.

As a side, I'm curious if this is why John McDonough was fired. These allegations aren't exactly new. We're just seeing more people come forward and say that they were aware of this issues.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 juin 2021 à 15 h 2
Forum: Armchair-GM12 avr. 2021 à 19 h 18
Sujet: Draft Day
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>I definitely like the draft analysis and while it may be a thinner year after the top 5-10, hopefully the hawks can find some diamonds in the rough.

As for borgstrom and nylander, I don’t mind borgstrom getting a fair shake, but for me nylander is still on a short leash. See if he actually fights for his place, but if he doesn’t show it, see ya. As for toews, I know everyone doesn’t wanna hear it, but we gotta think about life after without him. He’s way too sick and his chances to play again are minimal at the very very best. I just pray he stays comfortable and without too much pain.</div></div>

I've been a nylander defender on here, but I agree with this. With Kurashev and Suter being skilled forwards who give it their all every game and play hard, and Borgstrom being the newest reclamation project, you have to think if Nylander doesnt stick right away hes gone.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 avr. 2021 à 22 h 47
Forum: Armchair-GM8 mars 2021 à 15 h 48
Sujet: What if
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>I don't disagree, but in the same light Chicago has Dach (franchise 1C), Toews, Strome so there is absolutely no need for Larkin in Chicago. That said, just purely on value Detroit would make a major win here and at the end of the day it's not a hockey trade. In other words, getting exponential value back in a trade is sometimes better move then addressing a specific need especially when they are far from contending. Detroit would be all over this in a heartbeat and would be dumb not to.</div></div>

It’s a little too soon to call Dach a franchise 1C but he could become one. Need and position need to be addressed in a trade as wingers are much easier to acquire than centers. I like Cat but getting one dimensional wingers are much easier to do and Boqvist I like offensively and he has a lot of work to do in his own end. Taking all of these into considerations is why I said neither team does it.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 févr. 2021 à 15 h 6
Sujet: Where are the Bowman Haters Now
One right here baby. He sucks.

You mention that you have to give credit where credit is due, but I would say the Blackhawks are succeeded in spite of Bowman rather than because of him. Let's just look at the last year of decision making. Zadorov's xGF is -0.317, his xGA is -0.26, meaning that the Blackhawks score less goals and allow more goals than they would with with a replacement level player (ie, someone you could conceivably call up out of the minors) on the ice instead of Zadorov. Brandon Saad also has a negative xGF number of -0.06 (because he's just very okay offensively) but has a positive xGA of 0.14, which is crucial because the Blackhawks have trouble defensively, which goes beyond defenseman. If Bowman was building towards the Hawks being a contender this year, why would he trade for an obviously worse player? The answer is because he doesn't know what he's doing, I get he got other stuff for Saad with Zadorov but he made his on ice roster weaker for basically no reason. (also stupid because he actually had a better defenseman already on the roster which he gave up for nothing in Olli Maata, but we don't need to go there).

Look at the goaltending situation, which is really 80% of why Chicago is even picking up points at all this year. Kevin Lankinen has been unreal (so far). Had anyone outside of die hard Hawks fans ever heard of this guy before? Of course not. The Hawks didn't plan for that, that wasn't part of Bowman's genius. He just got lucky. Bowman had a chance to sign Lehner, didn't, had a chance to sign Crawford, didn't. This idiot was going to run with Malcom Subban and Colin Delia- two guys who could generously be called "backup caliber goaltenders"- and yet we're going to say Bowman actually set up his club to succeed?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>And if they make back to back playoffs with the youngest team in the NHL, both years? At some point credit needs to be given. I've never been a Bowman hater. Talon might have got the 1st cup, but drafting Toews/Kane doesn't mean he got the next two.</div></div>

So okay, let's look at the actual good years of Bowman where the team had success. Dale Tallon gets pushed out of a moving car right as it crossed the finish line for failing to qualify all-star top prospects *checks notes* Cam Barker and Kris Versteeg, and then Bowman is in charge during the 2010 win. And what did he do afterwards? Overpaid Brian Bickell? Traded Teuvo Teravainen because he overpaid Brian Bickell? Got nothing for Philip Danault, got nothing for Patrick Sharp, got nothing for Stephen Johns? Tried to solve a problem he didn't need solve with a Panarin extension and lost another Brandon Saad trade? How much credit can we give Bowman for signing these European guys if he's just going to bungle them in three years? The Hawks probably don't even win that 2015 cup if Kane's injury doesn't allow the Hawks to make a few deadline moves and then magically heal in time for the playoffs so the Hawks can field an over-the-cap roster without consequence. What a miraculous confluence of medical science and salary cap rules. If you give Stan Bowman a bunch of someone else's really good players and a mysterious injury that heals just in time for Game 1 of the first round, he's pretty great I guess.

Some will say the Hawks already were special after winning three cups in five years, and maybe they were. But they had a chance to rival even the great dynasties of the Oilers and the Islanders. The team was stacked and they still could have gotten guys like DeBrincat, who was second round pick, and guys like Kubalik and Suter since they were undrafted. That would have been an unreal and arguably unprecedented changing of the talent guard even if they decided to move on from guys like Panarin and Teravainen later due to cap reasons (assuming they would have actually kept Panarin when he was only making six million like they should have). And like, some of this is hindsight, but people critisized those trades at the time and rightfully so.

Anyway, I'm also not going to be able to give them much credit for beating the Edmonton Oilers in a five game series where they played Mike Smith twice to "make the playoffs" last year. Not only should an AHL team be able to beat that guy in net McDavid or no, it was a COVID postseason and everything that happened should be taken with a massive asterisk and that extends to this season too. If the Hawks have success, good for them and good for you as a fan and you should absolutely enjoy the ride, but it should absolutely not be used as a barometer for future success or evaluating the competency of a clearly incompetent front office. Sometimes the right pieces just come together despite someone trying so hard to make them not to.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 févr. 2021 à 13 h 33
Sujet: Amazing What 16 Games Does to an Ego
I agree and disagree on Boqvist. Yes, Beaudin and Mitchell excelling makes him trade bait, especially if we decide to hold on to Murphy long term (which I think we should), but I disagree about his vision. His vision and awareness is phenomenal, the problem is his execution. He made a few flashy offensive plays last night, which show that he knows whats going on most of the time. The problem is, when he tries to make a nifty saucer pass and it doesnt get off the ice and goes right into the defenders stick. Thats his issue. He knows where players are in the defensive zone and knows what he needs to do, he just doesnt have the strength to do it. I think he will get there in another 2 years, and he shouldn't be in the NHL yet, but I dont think calling his intelligence is necessarily the correct analysis. I think if we can find a way to get a premium young forward for him, I make the move, but I dont trade him unless its a win because he still has plenty of upside.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 févr. 2021 à 13 h 33
Sujet: Amazing What 16 Games Does to an Ego
Not gonna lie, Hawks fans have gotten way too overhyped this year for a team that's really not that good. They should look forward to sticking to the rebuild plan to make sure it's a contender for multiple years again, and not just make the playoffs this season to get swept out in the first round.

They're second in the division in terms of points, but really they're 4th. The e league has already said if they can't fit in all the games this season by May 8 then they're going by points percentage to determine playoff spots. Chicago has played 18 games which is tied for the most with Detroit &amp; 4 of those have come against Detroit which should be an easy 8 points for any team. Despite all the talk, they're goal differential is still only +1 which is not good for a playoff team. The biggest overhype so far has been with Lankinen. Sure, he has spectacular stats so far this season. But it's only been 12 games which is a hot streak, not a telling of what he is. Of those 12 games, 3 of them have come against Detroit. That's 25% of his starts against one of the worst teams to play in history. Chill.

On the plus side, Kane's looked good and upped his play even more. Definitely in MVP consideration if Chicago can sneak into the playoffs. They're rookies have looked good and not overwhelmed, and have done so without Toews and Dach, major plus for the future.

Realistically, this team is likely to fall off once the league catches up in games played and all the hype talk will go away and the "oh well we won 3 cups half a decade ago" talk will come back from most Hawks fans. Which is a shame because there are good ones out there, but the arrogant ones usually get the headlines.


As for the trades, I wouldn't give up on Boqvist yet. He's young and d-man tend to take longer to develop properly anyways. He can be such a game changer with his skating and playmaking ability. The fact that he's a right handed d-man will explode his value when he takes off, so I'd wait on him. I've said it since he was drafted and I scouted him in London, he's the right handed version of Jake Gardiner. Love him when he's at his best, but when he's not he's very noticeable. But he'll be the guy to quarterback any power play in the league. Just be patient, which is the most important thing during a rebuild. Don't run your best young talent outta town before they get good or it'll be an even longer rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 23
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. 2021 à 11 h 45
Sujet: The Future is bright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>Where was I negative? I said they were doing great. I just brought the fact that they’re only playing 7 different teams. That’s not an opinion that’s a fact. That doesn’t contradict the notion of them doing well. It’s merely a question mark.

As for the rest of that, if toews, Dach, nylander, or Crawford were still around, these guys wouldn’t get these chances most likely, so thank god they’re not here. The rest is decently spot on, save for possibly boqvist and Shaw. Boqvist hasn’t been great and Shaw hasn’t been what I would call influential. Otherwise, sure, proving the doubters indeed. Just cuz I’m looking at it another way doesn’t mean I’m being negative.</div></div>

I was a bit baked when I read your comment, lol