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Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsil y a 16 heures

Sujet: Reunited and it feels sounnecessary

Elvis gets back together with Torts and Atkinson comes home. Neither fanbase is excited by it, but sometimes swapping problem contracts works out.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsmer. à 7 h 59

Sujet: Bye Laine

Putting the giggles in “Dr. Giggles!” This is a CBJ fantasy list for shedding unattractive contracts. I love it, but it’s a pipe dream and there’s some serious ganj in that pipe. Or in Elvis’ case, dope between the pipes.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsmar. à 22 h 42

Sujet: Johnny goes back to Calgary

How are you gonna get Johnny to waive that NMC and move back farther from his family?

Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsdim. à 23 h 0

Sujet: Fair

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>penguinswin</b></div><div>Only if CBJ decides to rebuild again; this would help out then back another 2 years</div></div>

Rebuild “again?” That’s the problem — they never tried a proper rebuild in the first place. I think they still see KJ as a big part of what’s coming.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals11 avr. à 19 h 12

Sujet: Mtl cbj

No way for the CBJ. You can have Boqvist for a bag of pucks, but the other two for a 1st? Nah.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals6 avr. à 15 h 8

Sujet: Awful Contracts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Just_A_Guess</b></div><div>Do it for the plot...</div></div>

A plot for Bad Contracts would be Elvis and Severson heading out.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals6 avr. à 9 h 7

Sujet: Awful Contracts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Just_A_Guess</b></div><div>This part is rather irrelevant to this trade proposal. The picks are 2024 indicating the trade takes place prior to round 1 of the 2024 draft being completed, meaning he still wouldn't have his NMC enacted.</div></div>

Perhaps that part is, but the part about CBJ wanting no part of PLD is highly relevant. Also, they are neither likely to get rid of Olivier nor give up on KJ yet. Those draft picks won’t be high 1sts so where’s the attraction?

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals28 mars à 7 h 53

Sujet: Just playing around

“Just playing around” as in testing the trade machine with a sample trade? Because I’m wondering why the CBJ would ever want to do this.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals25 mars à 22 h 3

Sujet: MTL gets their young forward for 3rd year in a row

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ParkerD</b></div><div>And to clear this up. This would be a fresh start for Johnson who doesn't seem to be fitting in/ used right with CBJ. He seems like someone who would thrive with Marty St louis and the young core. MTL may need to add more, but I did it for fun.</div></div>

If by “used right” you mean, “in a way that doesn’t expose the shortcomings in his game that accompany his frail, not-yet-developed physique,” the CBJ are doing just that. He was also having a bit of a sophomore slump. I don’t think the Jackets are anywhere near ready to move on from him, but he’s probably still two years away from having a meaningful impact. It’s not his fault, but he’s getting leaned on by opponents who see it.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals24 mars à 19 h 33

Sujet: Culture

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>penguinswin</b></div><div>You talk about cherry picking stats!?! You just compared faceoff stats between a Center (Jenner) and a WINGER! At the end of the day you can say Skinner is overpaid and no one will argue that; however he is still a solid 30 goal scorer and that makes him SLIGHTLY overpaid. Considering what Laine & Gaudreau have produced like in CBJ they would make this trade in a heartbeat of it was offered. And they would be right and you would be wrong</div></div>

Right, to emphasize how many more things Jenner offers a team. A center > a winger. Skinner is on pace for 28, not 30. This is 2024 Skinner. Overpaid, not a 30-goal guy anymore, and end of the day you’re just…wrong.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals24 mars à 11 h 26

Sujet: Culture

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>penguinswin</b></div><div>Wow....I submit stats to back up my argument, and that's the best you got?</div></div>

When they’re cherry-picked and out of context? Yeah. Absolutely. Not worth the effort.

We’re not talking career numbers, we’re talking right now. Jenner on pace for 25, Skinner for 28 is pretty close. Jenner is on PP and PK. Faceoff % is ~54% Jenner to ~42% Skinner. One’s a leader, one’s not. One is way overpaid, one’s a bargain. Jackets say no and they’re right. You aren’t.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals23 mars à 21 h 55

Sujet: Culture

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>penguinswin</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ghost_of_Boomer</b></div></div>

Career numbers, Goals Per Game Avg:
Jenner: 0.27
Skinner: 0.36
Over 82 games, Skinner will net 30, Jenner only 22. Skinner has 6 seasons already of 30+ Goals. Jenner has 1.

Points Per Game Avg.
Jenner: 0.51
Skinner: 0.67
Over 82 games Skinner nets 55 pts, Jenner only 42.

So yes, the cap hit was atrocious for a couple of years, but so was the coaching staff. But overall you get what you pay for. You don't pay that much for the "intangibles" that Jenner brings. These are 2 very different players with very different skill sets, and as such cap hits. If you would rather have Jenner at his cap hit that is fine. But this particular package is an overpay for Jenner. If you want a 1st for him, you are retaining salary and throwing something else in.</div></div>

You’re high.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals23 mars à 18 h 32

Sujet: Culture

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>penguinswin</b></div><div>Yeah, no - I got it. That is not worth it for BUF. Like I said he would be a 3C and not much more offense than Krebs. Hard pass. Maybe another team would value him more if he was a 2C like Mittelstadt going to COL. But as a 3C it's a diminishd value.

As for Skinner, you're probably right, CBJ scores plenty of goals, why would they need another 30 goal scorer in their lineup? *insert whatever you want*

Jenner does far more for his team and is on pace for roughly the same number of goals as Skinner. You’re not adding “another 30-goal scorer,” you’re merely swapping a couple for each other. Oh, at roughly 1/3 the cap hit, too.</div></div>

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals23 mars à 8 h 50

Sujet: Culture

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>penguinswin</b></div><div>Boone is not fetching that return....he is a 3C in BUF and might be a good fit, but not at that cost</div></div>

Perhaps you misunderstand this proposal. It’s the CBJ who say “no.” Don’t need or want Skinner and Krebs isn’t a much better C option than what they have. The 1st is nice, but it’s only a start. Jenner is a captain on a great contract for a couple more years. I can almost guarantee the Jackets we’re offered a better package at the deadline and rightly spurned it.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals11 mars à 11 h 31

Sujet: please and thank you

“You must be 13 or older to have a CapFriendly account.”

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals11 mars à 11 h 30

Sujet: Idk anymor

No knock on Kyrou, but Jiricek is seen as a long-term 1st pair defenseman in Columbus and the CBJ don’t need another expensive guy until they clear more money and extend some of their young guys first. Ask again in about 18 months when we see whether or not Jiricek has improved his skating. If he hasn’t, you can have him. 😎

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals5 mars à 21 h 57

Sujet: This would be amazing for every team

Me either. EDM might tho.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals5 mars à 21 h 54

Sujet: Jackets - Bruins - Devils

Insulting. CBJ don’t even pause to laugh before hanging up. Do you really think they’d give up their Captain for a Swede who’s been out of the league for 5 years and a 2nd?

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals29 févr. à 22 h 21

Sujet: CBJ - TOR

Oh I suppose we could take Hildeby for those two Jackets if you insist. If you need us to retain a little salary for cap relief, I’m sure something could be worked out.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals27 févr. à 21 h 58

Sujet: Jenner for Debrusk

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>ya, i don't really care about all that. i just made a comment about jenner and provorov. but thanks for sharing</div></div>

Oh, my bad. I thought this was where trade proposals got discussed. Y’know…where it says, “Discuss this trade proposal.”

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals27 févr. à 21 h 52

Sujet: COL gets second line center

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>crazybaduihere</b></div><div>I like Jenner, that would be dope for COL but it's a lot to give up.</div></div>

You’re funny. It’s not enough for Jenner, and the salary retention is comical. Yeah, he’d be valuable to the Avs, especially in the playoffs, but you may not understand how much CBJ ownership doesn’t want to trade him and how much he doesn’t want to leave. It’s not like he’s on an expiring contract and they need to get what they can at the deadline. Hell, part of why they finally booted Jarmo was because he was merely taking calls on him.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals27 févr. à 21 h 44

Sujet: Jenner for Debrusk

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>i think the bruins would love jenner. i don't think there's any world where the bruins take provorov.</div></div>

I’m certain you’d love Jenner, but the CBJ wouldn’t want Forbort anymore than you wouldn’t want Provorov. And really, Debrusk is fine but in Columbus he’d just be blocking the kids. Jenner’s our captain. You’re not prying him away for that.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals27 févr. à 21 h 33

Sujet: If petey doesnt resign

Jackets are giving up WAYYY too much here for a guy who is gonna be yet another big cap hit and they haven’t locked down 5 crucial young guys you’ve listed in your top 9. How are you gonna pay everyone and have anything left over for the role players?

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals19 févr. à 19 h 32

Sujet: Sens send Norris packing

You’re not exactly selling it when you say, “send him packing.” :D

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals9 févr. à 21 h 58

Sujet: please hawks

TFW may be the best asset in all of this. What an odd proposal for each side.

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