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Fauteuil - DG
5 déc. 2021 à 21 h 11
Sujet:
GORTON MY MAN
I like the WPG deal. If Lekhonen only gets a third (I don't think his trade value is higher either), I'd rather keep him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 sept. 2019 à 2 h 37
Sujet:
Drouin vs Lindell not 1 for 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>Fleury>Honka
we may take him but no way his lazy floater style every gets to start as a regular for Claude Julien who's motto is '' you earn your spot , or you lose it '' a motto echoed in the AHL as Claude is the first coach i know if in the past 20 years(if not longer) that has meetings with his AHL Coaches giving them instructions on how he wants the system to mimic Canadiens system at the NHL level . Honka maybe a reclamation project like Kulak that Coach Bouchard in Laval can fine tune and adjust to our system but those are long odds as Honka just doesnt have any Heart
Lindell and Drouin makes sense for both teams
MTL is getting a LD it needs
DAL a top PP team that has depth scoring issues and an aging roster
gets MTL's top PP producer the past couple years .
DAL window with their current core is much smaller then MTL who may like a LD but is been upfront like NYR about building on youth and shedding age each year .
one could argue DAL needs it more
that being said i think if adding Chiarot in helps fill a void they'd have left in their top 4 then that makes sense .
top 6 guy for a top 4 guy
both 24 with lots of potential yet untapped
Lindell's that big heavy player Claude loves so he'll have success here
Drouin with either 1st or 2nd line would be set as DAL top 6 outside Dickinson is pretty awesome</div></div>
yup. I'm with Billy on this one. Good assessment of the deal and asset management for both teams.
HOWEVER, As of right now, Drouin value is lower than it should be (we know whats he's capable of) because of recency bias. I dont think GMs would pay a very high price for him. If he doesnt get his s*** together and keeps on playing like he has recently, MTL will systematically lose any trade involving him. There's always the risk of Drouin finally getting it after the trade and playing to the level he showed he's capable of like a few years ago when he dominated in the playoffs for Tampa. I'm torn here. Part of me says make that deal because it wont ever get better than this, and part of me wants to be patient.
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Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2019 à 20 h 3
Sujet:
Modern Day Merlot in MTL
I understand your idea, and agree with it to an extent, but i would personally not trade Byron (such a, wait for it, cap friendly deal) for Neal and would not touch Dion Phaneuf with a 10 foot pole.
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Armchair-GM
28 janv. 2019 à 22 h 9
Sujet:
Just way I like it
the players targeted in the trades might be good fits but seriously, and this applies to all those reading this, putting a bunch of low/mid value assets together will NEVER equate a high value one. Nobody does trades based on volume. Maybe if you're lucky and you get Peter Chiarelli or Mike Millbury drunk but that's about it. Those trades are always hard passes. EVERY team has a bunch of fringe NHLers like Hudon, Reilly. You put some interesting prospects like Brooks but there isn't a single piece that is as nearly as valuable or desirable as Whalstrom or Maata.
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Armchair-GM
18 juin 2018 à 1 h 52
Sujet:
Mtl2018
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kosterjr</b></div><div>Typical Habs, always over valuing their players. MB just gave away AG, that reduces his negotiating power with all other trades.</div></div>
Habs fan here 100% in agreement with you on these trades and MB's negotating power dropping after the AG trade. Holy crap things are bad, we can't even poke fun at the Leafs anymore (good on them)...
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Armchair-GM
1 mars 2018 à 21 h 37
Sujet:
Checking Cap with Tavares
Tavares is not singing here and we are not getting the first pick. We all have to start wrapping our heads around it.
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Armchair-GM
22 févr. 2018 à 1 h 17
Sujet:
Make sense trade for Karlsson (Fair deal)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FullSend</b></div><div>I can see Ottawa high on Raddysh, Point and Sergachev more than Johnson</div></div>
I agree.
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Armchair-GM
22 févr. 2018 à 1 h 16
Sujet:
Make sense trade for Karlsson (Fair deal)
Good one, but I agree that the pick should be a first. I'd say considering this year's pick is going to be at the bottom of the round, the first of next year should be in as well
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Armchair-GM
18 févr. 2018 à 21 h 9
Sujet:
Boredom
I'll just assume you wrote all that in jest.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 févr. 2018 à 21 h 39
Sujet:
Ex bruins team LOL this is funny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>This is too much lmaoooooo, btw mcdonagh never played for them so does that count?</div></div>
When you trade him for a washed up Scott Gomez it sure as hell counts
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Armchair-GM
15 févr. 2018 à 0 h 45
Sujet:
Ex bruins team LOL this is funny
let's celebrate the Bruins/habs rivalry (which is pretty much dead as this point,... just like our playoff hopes. ahem) with a joint venture You do the forwards and MTl does the defense: Subban, McDonagh, Sergachev, Gorges, Emelin, Beaulieu, Markov, Barberio.
...
If you are looking for me I'll be at the Jacques Cartier Bridge contemplating jumping down. cheers.
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Armchair-GM
15 févr. 2018 à 0 h 36
Sujet:
MTL Under the sun
And props for not adding the "John Tavares signs a 9 million 8 year deal" nonsense everyone puts in EVERY post here these days. Sprinkling a bit of Tavares on that fictional team like its Parmigiano cheese. Parmesan cheese is awesome but doesn't go on every single dish like, i dunno, sushi. So good on ya
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 févr. 2018 à 0 h 29
Sujet:
MTL Under the sun
That Pleky deal is as close as it's gonna get in my opinion, so extra points for a realistic trade that leave both teams happy. I'm not hating the Pacioretty trade either... They just need to NOT screw their first round pick, and as of recently things haven't been great in that regard. But hey, not the trade's fault so kudos
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Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2018 à 21 h 7
Sujet:
Patches to VGK,Plekky to WPG and Byron to DAL
That VGK trade is exactly what I want to see. The granlund trade could be a good reclamation project like Dale Weise was a few years ago: give an underperforming guy a fair shot, he takes it and plays solid hockey hockey and give the team vale for a few years.
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Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2018 à 20 h 59
Sujet:
Seller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>dude , the english language was designed to carry the Context of statements so we can communicate.
people far smarter then you or i suck grammatically which is why only lesser minds try being Grammar Nazi's
i am not here to treat things like university paper and bend over backward to structure my sentence's because people find them hard to skim thru, that's their issue.
Friendly Word of Advice , if you have to offer up Grammar Lessons dont contribute to a conversation perhaps you should not comment . (at least not to me as i find the concept arrogant at best )</div></div>
chill, I wasn't attacking you personally or you point for that matter (I'll kindly let slide the "lesser minds" comment), nor am "offering grammar lessons. I said that because I've seen you have valid points and I legit had a hard time figuring out what you were trying to say and I actually wanted to know what your argument was. I'd say that's contributing a whole lot more to the conversation than whining about grammar nazis and arrogance and whatnot. My comment was earnest and devoid of condescension. So don't be so defensive and get off your high horses, it makes you look childish. Anyways, I'll look forward to actually talking hockey with you in the future
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2018 à 19 h 34
Sujet:
Seller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>only if you forgot STL has no 1st this year to negotiate with like the rest of the teams in the NHL offering up a pick in the 15th-31st spot in the deepest draft for D since 2003 when NSH drafted Suter,Weber,and Klein
a late 2nd wouldnt even get them a seat at the big boy table with teams like EDM,CGY,CAR,MIN,CAR and LA linked to the Captain STL has to step it up
LA has Vlardi who's tearing up Jr right now so even if STL offered all this its still likely not enough if an LA offers up a Vlardi or CAR offers up a Rask or Miller (debate there who's going out so Miller can come up or if Miller goes)</div></div>
Friendly word of advice: please structure your sentences a bit better, or use punctuation a bit more, as it's hard to figure out what you're trying to say. Which is a shame, really because it seems like you might have had somewhat of a valid point.
That being said, I'd have to agree that a late 2nd wouldn't cut it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2018 à 1 h 8
Sujet:
Seller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gabriiel40</b></div><div>What about like Thomas or Kyrou, Kaspick, 2nd and 3rd?</div></div>
good question. to be honest I don't know much about him so I won't talk through my hat here. I guess that could be possible? anyone else has an opinion on this?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2018 à 0 h 48
Sujet:
Seller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>i agree until the last 2 trades i was like '' i think this is a 5/5 ''
i mean i think that third for NSH should be conditional 2nd if plekky plays more then 50% of the playoffs .
but outside that pretty good .</div></div>
Indeed. However asking for Thomas AND Kyrou will have the Blues management refuse the offer . It should be just patches for Thomas IMO.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2018 à 0 h 45
Sujet:
Tell me What you guys think
In trading patches for Thomas and Kyrou you are targeting the right guys/position so good job on that aspect. I think, however that Benn is a non factor so I'd take him out of the equation. Having both Thomas and Kyrou would be very nice but i don't think it's possible, as the Blues would be mortgaging the foreseeable future at centre trading them both. I think it should be either Thomas OR Kyrou keep the picks (ideally) or just go with one of the 2 (more realistically). I think if you go like this the trade could work: Pacioretty, 2nd pick (wpg) for Thomas OR Pacioretty for Kyrou. Steep price? maybe. But centers are always valued higher than wingers. What helps is that they are still just kids and Patches is a proven commodity. But hey, what do I know right? Feel free to flame me for this comment
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2018 à 22 h 52
Sujet:
Terrible trade for Ottawa
The remaining three years of salary retention (1.7 mil) hurts. I don't know much about shore, so I can't really comment on that aspect of the trade but i don't really think it'll be a factor
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2018 à 22 h 39
Sujet:
Montreal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs4ever</b></div><div>The reference on that trade is if Al Montoya plays 7 games in net for Edmonton, the 5th round becomes a 4th round for MTL. So far he has played 5 games, so he should hit 7 games before seasons end. Similar circumstances with a forward with regards to the LA Kings trade.</div></div>
thanks for clearing that up. That does make a whole lot more sense. cheers!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2018 à 22 h 26
Sujet:
Montreal
legit question here: Why on earth would teams trade their 4th round pick for a 5th one for one? What's the logic behind this? it's like trading 1 dollar for 80 cents. there is no upside for the party trading the 4th round pick. why would anybody do that?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2018 à 20 h 41
Sujet:
FLO rumor
Tippett is indeed a great prospect. And By the way to all those who undervalue Pacioretty, he has been one of the top 5 consistent and productive goal scorers of the past 5 years, has a cap friendly contract (not even 5 mil) AND still has a year left on it. that's massive value.
HOWEVER considering organisational needs, trading Pacioretty for anything else than a center would get you 1- fired and 2-lynched. Look at that center depth. Might be the worst in the league. holy moly is it bad. The should be sponsored by Tim Hortons because every line on that team is the donut line.
It's ok to trade patches, but if you don't get a good centerman, the offensive woes of the team will never stop and you'll be in the same position the next year with less attractive assets to shed in order to get the Center you need.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2018 à 20 h 24
Sujet:
The Price is Right
Congratulations. Your Arizona trade got me to actually burst out laughing by myself in the office (boss didn't look pleased). People here have to understand that many mid-tier value assets DO NOT equate a High-end asset. It's like saying "Hungry? here's a turd sandwich. No? Here's 5 turd sandwiches. NO?! BUT THERE'S FIVE OF THEM!" Also, why would the Canadiens trade Drouin for an older winger with a lower ceiling talentwise? For the 3rd round pick? Ah, I get it they'll use the pick along with their own 3rd and Shaw for McDavid.
Allright, I don't mean to be a prick I see what you were going for but I just think your evaluation of players and value is off and I have a hard time making sense of the moves proposed here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 févr. 2018 à 23 h 9
Sujet:
Sparkle things up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FullSend</b></div><div>Not even close on the Edmonton deal, Oilers hang up the phone, shoot the phone then throw it in the ocean with a brick attatched to it.
As for Tavares, if he’s signing for 9 mill, he easily resigns in New York and that’s done.. Open market signing? He’s gonna sign for an upward of 11.5 mill and he won’t take a discount to be in Montreal
So dim those sparkles</div></div>
exactly. I see the kind of trade you are doing for, and I agree that this is what they need. But the value on MTL's side is comparatively too low. A few middle-of-the-pack players don't equate a good one. I am getting a bit tired of seeing all these rosters where Tavares magically sings for less than market value (12 mil) to magically fix their team. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. wrap your head around it. When was the last time a star players went to free agency and signed to another team? It just doesn't happen anymore. Tavares will be back with the Islanders, end of story.
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