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Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 11 h 10
Sujet: Fiala Trade - Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mattkenn</b></div><div>1. The main value is in the first round pick that will be TOP 5 vs 16-24 range.

2. Brown is one of the most underrated players in the league. Complete game. Plays in all situation. 20 min/game. Has a RH shot (which Minny lacks) . Has a super reasonable contract. He is worth a late 1st as a rental. Also in a year, Dumba, Kulikov and Talbot are off the hook. Possibility to extand him long term to a more reasonable cap hit than Fiala's.

3. Gus allows minny to ease Wallstedt along in the AHL next year and step in the following year when Talbot is off the hook.

4. The addition of Zaitsev on the right side makes Dumba expandable. He'll be able to eat enough tough minutes to ease Addison into the lineup.</div></div>


Theirs no guarantee that the pick is top 5, and it would be a gamble for minny. But why would Minnesota do it? They want to win now so why downgrade a forward, unless Minny flips the pick but I'm sure they would rather secure a better player in any trade for fiala. Also I'm not sure they would want to take on Zaitsev, say what you want about him he's not a good value player even at 2M at the current cap hit. Gustavsson is a replacement level goalie and I'm sure minny could find a simular player in FA.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2022 à 15 h 21
Sujet: Leafs lose in the first round
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Now you're comparing the development times of forwards and defensemen as if they are similar?!?!? That's even worse than saying that the reason why Lemieux and DesLauriers returned only fourths is that they had little potential upside. Third- and fourth-liners don't have their value because they have upside, their value is in what talents they already possess. My point is that Anderson hasn't shown that he has even third-line ability.

You think that Anderson has significant value based on nothing more than a hope and a prayer. GMs don't make decisions on that basis. Remember Mikko Lehtonen? He supposedly had great potential too -- a leading scorer in the KHL, as I recall.

Taking flyers is for guys at the race track, not the hockey rink.</div></div>

Now your comparing the KHL-NHL transition at the AHL-NHL transition. If Deslauriers if an NHLer then why wouldn't Anderson be considered one as well? produced at roughly the same rate in the NHL, DesLauriers spent more than 6 years developing before his NHL debut. Anderson doesn't have the chance to show his ability due to depth in the Leafs Org, but look what he did with consistent time in NJ.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2022 à 12 h 12
Sujet: Leafs lose in the first round
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Josh Anderson is 23 years old, is therefore in his D+6 season, and has played all of 57 games in the NHL, including only 5 in the last two seasons with Toronto, so the fact that "he has been an NHLer" cuts against him, not for him. He has no particular size, hasn't been an especially prolific scorer in the AHL, and hasn't been able to earn a spot over the much older Wayne Simmonds and Jason Spezza. Compare him to Brendan Lemieux, for whom Los Angeles paid a fourth, and Nic DesLauriers, for whom Anaheim paid a fourth and Minnesota just paid a third, and you should change your mind about Anderson being worth a fourth. My friend palhal is right -- we might give Toronto a seventh for him and send him to Ontario (the one in California), but he's not making our NHL squad, and I doubt he would make anyone else's.</div></div>

23 is still a young age, especially with the development of later draft picks. Anderson is a casualty of offensive depth and the unwillingness to scratch veterans by the Org. If anything, I say your point about DesLauriers and Lemieux work in favour of Anderson's value, as both are low production players and have less potential upside than Anderson.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars 2022 à 9 h 35
Sujet: Leafs lose in the first round
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Muzzin doesn't waive for Philly. So the Leafs lose in the first round, and then you resign the goalie who likely the losing the goalie in the first round.
Don't know why you say it was a disappointing trade acquiring Joey Anderson....Leafs needed the cap space and were able to offload 2.3m Johnsson. Sorry Anderson isn't an NHLer and can gifted to LA.</div></div>

I know like I said I highly doubt Muzzin waives. Campbell has upside, and a first round loss against a good opponent doesn't mean the goalie played poorly, such as Campbell last year. Leafs could of easily of got a second round pick, Joey Anderson was a bit of a gamble or bet and it didn't payoff, at least not yet but point is his value is less than a second. He has been an NHLer however and a fourth is a fair return I think most would agree.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 mars 2022 à 17 h 39
Sujet: a slightly more realistic off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>toronto would definitely need to give up 1 of robertson, knies or niemala for murphy he is a very good shutdown dman

also i was gonna mention i think either nichushkin or marchment would be solid additions for the 1st line i hope B's can move past the whole russian thing because nichushkin would be a near perfect fit for bergy and marchy

also when looking at advanced analytics bush is much less prone to turnovers, had more blocked shots a high corsi and his WAR, 5v5 defence and PK stats were all higher then brown's i think bush is a good bottom pair dman where brown is more of a 6-7 dman he can play bottom pair but he needs a solid partner with him if that is the case</div></div>

Which is why it wouldn't happen. No use in giving up a top prospect for a man when you have plenty of options within the system