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Forum: Trade Machine Proposals4 juin 2023 à 18 h 43
Sujet: Guaranteed Michkov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>No they aren't.

They are treading water until their situation is resolved. Whether that is in Arizona or after a relocation. They have been doing that since their push to compete circa the time of the Hall acquisition failed, and they started the most ridiculous teardown/tank job the league has ever seen.

Michkov go Arizona is the perfect situation because they can't spend money to build a roster right now. Not burning his ELC is a huge advantage for them, since they will still be tanking until their situation is resolved.

There is no reasonable avenue for Washington to get Michkov. Arizona probably asks for both Washington's '24 and '25 1st round picks to move down.</div></div>

Nobody is asking Arizona to trade anything. This proposal is for an SJ trade. Arizona needs D more than F. Period. They'd maybe take a shot on Michkov if he falls to 12, which he won't. Also, treading water isn't going to do anything for finding a new arena or keeping fans interested.

At the end of the day, we're both biased fans arguing our cases. I really think he ends up in WSH – he might even fall to 8. Let's just wait and see.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals4 juin 2023 à 9 h 22
Sujet: Guaranteed Michkov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>The drop from 4 to 8 is massive. It's an impossible trade to make, because San Jose isn't trading down for anything short of a huge overpayment.

In 2015, Toronto wanted 34, 38, and 58 to move down from 4 to 8. Columbus said no. You have to keep in mind, that was a very deep draft where there would be good players available early in the second, and the difference between the projected player at 4 and the projected player at 8 wasn't as big as usual. Toronto basically asked for two first round talents+ to move down from 4 to 8.

There probably is no reasonable avenue for Washington to get Michkov. Michkov's situation is tailor made for the Coyotes who pick at 6. The way that this draft is structured, nobody is likely to want to drop out of the top 5 for anything other than a massive return.

Washington's only hope is to do something like offer Arizona two or three first round picks to trade down. Arizona probably doesn't say no to 8th overall and Washington's 2024 and 2025 1st - Washington isn't going to offer that though.</div></div>

Michkov's situation is tailor made for a team that isn't in win now mode. Arizona has Keller and Schmaltz, and a whole bunch of picks this year and next year. They're going to want to start building a team that can win asap; that will help keep guys around, which will help keep fans around, which will help build a new arena.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals4 juin 2023 à 9 h 14
Sujet: Guaranteed Michkov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>I would say there’s a %90 percent chance whoever is taken at 8 isn’t going to be a full time nhler in 3 years. It’s not all that often that happens. The waiting for Michkov argument is a flawed one</div></div>

This will age poorly. There's so many future stars in this draft; guys like Benson, Dvorsky, Reinbacher will be available at 8. Even 10-15 will have some steals, like Colby Barlow and Brayden Yager. Michkov might play big, but he doesn't fit the bio of the type of player Jim Armstrong usually is attracted to.

Also, how is the waiting argument flawed? It's super relevant. Teams want to be good now, and Arizona won't be any better if they need to wait 3 years for their pick. They'll want a guy that can come up asap to play with Keller, Hayton and Schmaltz, and develop with Lamoureux, Geekie, Guenther and Cooley.

I see them going immediate impact wing (Leonard) at 6, and a D at 12 (Sandin Pellikka, if he's still up.)
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