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Forum: Armchair-GM19 janv. 2018 à 21 h 45
Sujet: if we did want to deal a dman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zeerak</b></div><div>Wasn't Sergachev a "good prospect," he brought in Drouin didn't he? If you look deeper into it Sergachev wasn't a point per game dman in the OHL, but Valimakki is above that in the WHL. The comparison is not that far off. I'm well aware that this deal won't happen but if history tells us anything it's that it's entirely plausible



Him being on the third line would make that line insanely dangerous, they already looked great every night even with hathaway in that position. So putting him on the third line isn't a demotion, it's where he fits best to give us terrific offensive depth. As for the trade, read text above.</div></div>

Sergachev was not just a good prospect. He was pegged as a top 2 for a while. Even then, Montreal had to add a 2nd conditional as an insurance policy, for a player with a checkered past that was probably on his way out of Tampa eventually regardless.

Valimaki is not Sergachev, and Drouin has a fresh start in Montreal.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. 2018 à 16 h 9
Sujet: What quality young centres would you have traded Sergachev 1 for 1 instead of sq
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hazard</b></div><div>You are bang on that MTL has the toughest job in luring UFA because of how tough the market is there, I don't disagree, but I will die on this hill that Jeff Petry is not a good defender.

He's sure as hell not worth 5.5 mill... barely worth 2 mill in my mind. Go take a look at his hockey DB and you'll see where im coming from... its outstanding how bad he is. He's been a + player once in his career and he has never surpassed the 30 point mark. He doesn't check, doesn't lay the body, coughs up the puck way to easily. I'm sorry, but he really doesn't cut it, especially in a high market like MTL.

While I do strongly agree that MTL has a tough job of luring in players, having an horrendous gm like Bergevin doesn't help, thinking players will sign for much less then what they want and are owed (Markov and Radulov). MTL has alot of problems right now, but i think the biggest one is poor asset management. If MTL has any chance of being a contender again, they got to do a rebuild, a quick one at that, and it starts with Unloading that horrendous contract of Petry, and praying to the hockey gods you can sign Tavares for what Leafs would have signed Stamkos for. It really is all based on him. They should be looking at what they can pry out of Vegas', Arizona, Sabres, and Sens hand while they have a chance. If they can get Tavares then a rebuild isnt needed, just a better set up... but if not, blow it up.

Me, being a Leafs fan at that, don't mind if the Habs succeed. Great Fans, community, support, history, and horrendous media coverage like the leafs lol. I just dont want them to be stupid and crap for the next few years with no plan in place, and if this kind of thinking continues (Petry at 5.5 mill) it will drive them straight into the ground</div></div>

Petry is a positive possession player, driving play in the right direction, and is having a near career year this season, despite having really low PDO and on ice save%.
This is despite playing on a poor team this year and having a rotating cast of questionably reliable partners.

Don't let obsolete statistics or general opinion influence your own evaluation. He's a steady 2nd pair defender and Jack of all trades, master of none.
Given a time machine, I'd still sign him, for $500k or so less, and be perfectly satisfied. The only thing I would do differently, is not saddle him with slower, less mobile, stay at home types, like Emelin and Alzner.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. 2018 à 15 h 32
Sujet: What quality young centres would you have traded Sergachev 1 for 1 instead of sq
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hazard</b></div><div>You are bang on that MTL has the toughest job in luring UFA because of how tough the market is there, I don't disagree, but I will die on this hill that Jeff Petry is not a good defender.

He's sure as hell not worth 5.5 mill... barely worth 2 mill in my mind. Go take a look at his hockey DB and you'll see where im coming from... its outstanding how bad he is. He's been a + player once in his career and he has never surpassed the 30 point mark. He doesn't check, doesn't lay the body, coughs up the puck way to easily. I'm sorry, but he really doesn't cut it, especially in a high market like MTL.

While I do strongly agree that MTL has a tough job of luring in players, having an horrendous gm like Bergevin doesn't help, thinking players will sign for much less then what they want and are owed (Markov and Radulov). MTL has alot of problems right now, but i think the biggest one is poor asset management. If MTL has any chance of being a contender again, they got to do a rebuild, a quick one at that, and it starts with Unloading that horrendous contract of Petry, and praying to the hockey gods you can sign Tavares for what Leafs would have signed Stamkos for. It really is all based on him. They should be looking at what they can pry out of Vegas', Arizona, Sabres, and Sens hand while they have a chance. If they can get Tavares then a rebuild isnt needed, just a better set up... but if not, blow it up.

Me, being a Leafs fan at that, don't mind if the Habs succeed. Great Fans, community, support, history, and horrendous media coverage like the leafs lol. I just dont want them to be stupid and crap for the next few years with no plan in place, and if this kind of thinking continues (Petry at 5.5 mill) it will drive them straight into the ground</div></div>

Ok but you are looking at some insignificant stats and basing it off that.

=/- is the most pointless stat in hockey. Ekman larsson is -39 this year should Arizona put him on waivers? No. Honestly don't bother using =/-. Anyone "in the know" understands this and picks apart other peoples rationale in seconds.

Hits? Comes down to what is most important to you? Petry is not a "hitter". Markov doesn't hit players to be effective. Neither does Petry. But just for fun, Let's look at the numbers. Petry actually has the second highest # of hits of anyone not named Emelin in the past 10 years. So he is hitting and does hit. Maybe not Scott Stevens type hits but how many players still are like that in the NHL? Also chances are you are looking at this season mostly to base your opinion of him. This year is over. Why on earth is going to risk injury at this point and go in for any big hits? LOL believe it or not, Petry is off to his highest hit per game % this year since joining the Habs.....

Petry for all his talent is not an offensive dman. He is a good all round dman. Doesn't excel in any one thing but doesn't bring his team down at any thing either. In terms of point scoring, he's right where most guys of his type are so i'm not sure what you are comparing him to? Offensive dmen? Ok but now look at those players and look at what Petry does that they don't.

In all honesty, Petry drives me nuts sometimes also. When entering the offensive zone with speed he is the only player that the minute he passes the other teams blueline, has no idea what to do with the puck and will skate into the zone round the net all the way back to his own net and then coughs the puck up. Petry is culpable for making some absolute bone headed mistakes sometimes but if you analyze his play as a whole you'll realize, those mistakes don't end up in goals as much as others mistakes do and his best attribute is going unnoticed in games. When he is unnoticed, that means he did everything perfectly but because isn't fancy, never catches the eye.

I am not defending Petry because I like him, in all honesty his face annoys me and he always has a dumbfounded expression, but he is a quality middle of the pact top 4 dman. Not a star player but definitely not bad.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. 2018 à 13 h 13
Sujet: What quality young centres would you have traded Sergachev 1 for 1 instead of sq
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hazard</b></div><div>He doesn't check the player is what im trying to say mate. Don't compare Johnny to Petry. To be a dman, you have to be physically strong and capable of separating players from the puck with skill, strength, or smarts. Petry has none of those things.</div></div>

Yes he does, he is fine dman. Granted I too think he is not worth 5.5M but you have to remember a couple things:

1) MTL has a hard time luring UFA's. Its not a super envious destination for players so we don't get the cream of the crop. usually have to settle for lesser guys like Alzner.
2) We have some of the highest tax rates. In order to beat another teams offers, not only do we have to match the dollar value but even over pay on top of that as the UFA would have way more tax deducted here than in other teams.

The allure of playing for the Habs rich organization has all but been forgotten. This is a job to players now. not a priviledge. Whether its Anaheim, Detroit or Montreal. Its doesn't matter. Money and quality of life matter now.

He is not a bottom pairing dman. That is silly to say. Nothing supports that at all. But he is also not a top pairing dman as he lacks some attributes the best dmen in the league have. If all dollar rates were even and all things considered, Petry would of been a 4.5M dollar dman and that is his sweet spot. Tack on the two things mentioned above and an extra 1M gets added on to the deal.

People forget that MTL has to overpay in order to compete with other teams. 1 Nashville dollar does not equal 1 Montreal dollar.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 janv. 2018 à 18 h 47
Forum: Armchair-GM13 janv. 2018 à 6 h 55