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Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
21 mars à 13 h 43
Sujet:
Has Acquire Barrett Hayton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bwhsocal</b></div><div>when you get your info from hack canadian (country not team) hockey 'reporting' i guess cant blame you for not knowing the actual situation.</div></div>
As of now, Arizona is carrying 23.14M worth of such contracts, actually paying out only 15.25M. Three of those contracts vanish this summer. Without those, they could be below the minimum cap hit next year. I am getting my info from an obscure website called capfriendly. You should try it...
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Trade Machine Proposals
19 mars à 12 h 45
Sujet:
Has Acquire Barrett Hayton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>this is creative. but im not sure prices contract can be moved just yet.</div></div>
From July 2nd, Arizona would have to pay 2M for a 10.5M cap hit; something they're bound to love. But that indeed comes with the 7.5M price tag in 25-26...
One thing is certain, if he's not traded this year, not too long after July 2nd 2025, Price will "finish his career" with another team.
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Trade Machine Proposals
19 mars à 9 h 43
Sujet:
Has Acquire Barrett Hayton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GDubb2Shiesty</b></div><div>Can’t see the habs giving up that calgary pick considering there’s a very good chance they end up as a lottery team next year</div></div>
If the Flames' pick is top 10, we'll get Florida's pick (unless it is even better, but that's not happening). Let's assume the deal happens on July 2nd: Arizona has Price massive cap hit for a fraction of the cost in 24-25. A bit more pricy in 25-26, but not a catastrophe.
Montreal gains incredible flexibility and acquire a good middle-six winger. I'd do it... Not sure Arizona would.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
24 févr. à 12 h 51
Sujet:
Whats Kakko Worth
Take out WIN's 1rst, and have NYR send us a 2nd instead of a 4th?
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
23 févr. à 15 h 21
Sujet:
Z to MTL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Well, this has got to be one of the worst offers I've seen.
MTLs 24 1st at the draft, plus a Beck level prospect
MTLs 25 2nd plus Reinbacher
Slafkovsky
Choose from one of the three above options.</div></div>
In that case, I pray the hockey gods that Hughes doesn't pull such a trade!
Wait... this feels like déjà vu ;)
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
23 févr. à 13 h 1
Sujet:
MTL second Line center
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>Johnson has a much higher ceiling than Suzuki. you know this.</div></div>
Ceiling? Maybe... But what I actually do know is that at 127 careers games, Jonhson has 22G, 37A, 59P. After 127 games, Suzuki had 28G, 54A, 82P.
I also know that 3 years later, he's shown constant progress, is our captain and does it well, and is one pace for a PPG season on a ****ty team. And he is on a contract that looks more and more like a bargain each time he touches the ice. So 1:1 Suzuki against Johnson, I'll say no every day of the week, twice on Sunday.
Then, when you talk of Suzuki, an established first line center, as a throw-in in a transaction for a kid who's still proving himself, I am not sure you've paying much attention to how NHL trades work...
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Trade Machine Proposals
23 févr. à 11 h 14
Sujet:
MTL second Line center
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>First off, I'm pretty sure that would be Montreal's first center.
Now, for the trade value - add Suzuki.</div></div>
Hahaha you're funny! ... Wait what? You're serious? Sorry, I though you actually watched hockey.
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Trade Machine Proposals
23 févr. à 11 h 14
Sujet:
MTL second Line center
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MacAttack_NHL</b></div><div>Jackets will decline. You need to add Owne Beck, Filio Mesar or Sean Farell</div></div>
If Mesar, Harris, Tuch and WIN's 1rst sealed the deal, I'd do it without blinking. I don't think it will though
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Trade Machine Proposals
23 févr. à 11 h 10
Sujet:
who says no fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Anaheim, easilly.
MTL's 24 1st and a Beck level prospect, at the draft, provided the pick is high enough
MTL's 25 2nd and Reinbacher
Slafkovsky
Pick one of the three above options. We're not interested in a random grab bag of late picks and B prospects, nor are we taking a bad contract the other way without additional sweeteners.</div></div>
In that case, I pray the hockey gods that Hughes doesn't pull such a trade!
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Trade Machine Proposals
23 févr. à 11 h 8
Sujet:
Jake gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Guentzel without Crosby is still a ppg winger. That would be a huge add to our team</div></div>
I am willing to bet 2$ that Hughes won't trade for him ;) And, while I feel lucky, I'll bet another 2$ that Roy will be a ppg winger in 2-3 years for a significantly lower salary that that of Guntzel.
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Trade Machine Proposals
22 févr. à 10 h 8
Sujet:
Jake gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Habs fan probably won’t like it, but personnally, I would do it if it came with a reasonable extension. I always was a big fan of Guentzel</div></div>
Roy is flashing top 6 potential and is 20yo. He's waiver exempt and has 2 more years on a super cheap contract.
Guntzel is 29 and has good stats... playing with Crosby.
This trade would go against everything the Habs top brass are trying to build.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
22 févr. à 10 h 4
Sujet:
who says no fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>mesar OR beck, both not required.
maybe they want to dump one of their heavy contracts?</div></div>
Anaheim is nowhere close to needing to dump salaries; that would have little value for them.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
16 févr. à 14 h 0
Sujet:
2vs1
I'd do it without the retention. Colorado would return Annunen to the minors, so they'd have the cap space.
I understand that the value might not be there for Colorado, but I don't see why we'd take a horrible contract (Johansen), let go of a reliable (and polyvalent) 4C, and burn a retention slot for 2 years for a sole, late 1rst rounder. We have plenty of draft capital as it is.
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Trade Machine Proposals
14 févr. à 13 h 29
Sujet:
TB or Dallas for savard
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>could do it.
he looks promissing, but savard should fetech a similar return he did before.
1st+</div></div>
A late first and a B prospect is worth much less than a 2021 first rounder that isn't a bust and his establishing himself as a decent option down the middle. Habs would need to throw in WIN's first rounder in this trade for it at least to receive some attention from a GM in its right mind. Or you remove Johnston and replace him by Dallas' late first.
Don't get me wrong. I like Savard, and I don't even think we should trade him as he is worth a lot to us in terms of his mentorship. But he's not going to fetch a player of Johnston's caliber.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
2 févr. à 11 h 51
Sujet:
Jets get Monahan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Neither Winnipeg's 1st nor Lambert are available for the Montreal players listed.</div></div>
It seems the 1rst round pick was ;)
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Trade Machine Proposals
1 févr. à 18 h 51
Sujet:
Jets get Monahan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EatMyScoobySnack</b></div><div>Savard could feltch something around Second or third round pick + an prospect to the good team in need of defenseman for playoff. Something like Savard 50% retain for Ethan Gauthier with an third round pick maybe ?
Monahan while not as valuable as Lindholm would at least get first round pick and someone like a prospect b or a maybe.</div></div>
Monahan might be worth a first, but he does not have half the first-line-center potential that Lindholm has in the eyes of GMs. They see this year as a negative anomaly for him, and a positive anomaly for Monahan. Given that Lambert is at 1ppg in his first full year in the AHL, he's probably worth more than a potentially 28th-to-32nd overall pick, and he'd be closer to contributing in the NHL. One on one against Monahan, I'd prefer this to (e.g.) the Jets first pick and some second tier prospect (we have too many of those already).
In short, I see the above as Monahan<->Lambert, which is decent in light of the Lindholm trade, and then the Jets 1rst for Savard with retention. I don't think WIN would pay that for Savard, even retained.
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Trade Machine Proposals
1 févr. à 18 h 40
Sujet:
still fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EatMyScoobySnack</b></div><div>Monahan along is an first round + so not fair at all for Montreal.</div></div>
I am not a big fan of this trade. That being said, not all first picks are equal. (This analysis provides interesting insights: https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities).
A 1rst from (e.g.) Boston or Colorado is potentially worth much less than a first from NYR given the current rankings and the odds of their clinching their respective conference.
And maybe Perreault was a 23rd overall pick, but his value has increased since then. Not sure he'd fall to 23rd if we redid the 2023 draft with today's information.
In short, in the NYR were bold enough to give us Perrault 1:1 against Monahan, I'm pretty sure Hughes would say yes... unless someone else seems even more desperate ;)
In a trade with NYR, I'd be less surprised to see a package built around Kakko then around Perreault.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
1 févr. à 12 h 11
Sujet:
Jets get Monahan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>hate to say it but thats nt enough.
mtl will getr more for monhan and savard individually</div></div>
Pretty sure the Jets' fanbase will strongly disagree with you here. And I am not convinced we can get that much more for Monahan and Savard. The Lindholm deal is good news, be we can't fool ourselves, Monahan won't fetch anywhere close to that kind of return. And Savard... meh. He's worth much more to us that to any contender.
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Trade Machine Proposals
1 févr. à 5 h 3
Sujet:
Rangers Push - Zero sum cap hit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD25</b></div><div>Then I would not do it. I am not saying you are wrong in terms of value. But if I were Gorton/Hughes, I'd put a lot of value on the last retention slot. Using it means no other retention deals at the deadline, nor at the draft.
Now, remove the retention and add "Calgary's first", I'd consider it. The conditions on CGY's first are such that it is very likely that we're going to receive's Florida's 2025 1rst rounder. In the end, we'd be trading 2 rentals worth at least a 1rst+ together, and an actual late first (Florida's) and a mid-second for Lafrenière. That'd be a pretty decent deal for the Habs. Not sure though that NYR are willing to go that far to get Monahan over (say) Henrique.</div></div>
Given the price just paid by the Canucks for Lindholm, it seems Monahan might be traded 1:1 for Lafrenière in the end ;P
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Trade Machine Proposals
29 janv. à 11 h 58
Sujet:
Rangers Push - Zero sum cap hit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KentMcNally</b></div><div>I think Montreal has to add something more significant to this. Like perhaps Calgary's first round pick (lottery protected if possible) or Joshua Roy. I am not saying it has to be one of those, but something more for sure, in my opinion.</div></div>
Then I would not do it. I am not saying you are wrong in terms of value. But if I were Gorton/Hughes, I'd put a lot of value on the last retention slot. Using it means no other retention deals at the deadline, nor at the draft.
Now, remove the retention and add "Calgary's first", I'd consider it. The conditions on CGY's first are such that it is very likely that we're going to receive's Florida's 2025 1rst rounder. In the end, we'd be trading 2 rentals worth at least a 1rst+ together, and an actual late first (Florida's) and a mid-second for Lafrenière. That'd be a pretty decent deal for the Habs. Not sure though that NYR are willing to go that far to get Monahan over (say) Henrique.
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Trade Machine Proposals
19 janv. à 12 h 48
Sujet:
WPG-MTL Winnipeg gets what they need
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SMH</b></div><div>no thank from MTL , it starts with a 1st buddy</div></div>
It will depend on whether it's a sellers or buyers market this year, but I agree that unconditionally, Monahan (+given how cheap is his cap hit) is worth a 1rst. That said, Montreal's second (coming back our way here) won't be that far behind Win's first. And we get a second tier prospect. If it's a buyers' market, this could well be one of the most interesting offers on Hugues desk... But I sure hope it'll be a sellers' market ;)
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Trade Machine Proposals
18 janv. à 13 h 0
Sujet:
Fleury the King
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RukaRadebe</b></div><div>This is terrible for the Habs</div></div>
The main problem IMO is the cap retention. Allen is not worth much, and getting rid of both his and Armia's cap would give Hughes amazing flexibility this summer. But using our last retention slot before the draft for such a return makes little sense.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 janv. à 9 h 41
Sujet:
Button says they need another C but also a big winger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>well yes, but your premise that monahan is better than lindholm is ridiculous.</div></div>
When did I say he was better? I explicitly said: 'compare the built, stats [this year], and leadership", and "as a sign and trade, that'd be a different story maybe". This acknowledge that he's somewhat inferior. But GM have to optimize under constraints, and the cap hit of Monahan makes him a very attractive rental. And people tend to forget that a late first is not worth that much more than an early second round pick...
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Armchair-GM
12 janv. à 9 h 15
Sujet:
Button says they need another C but also a big winger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ktownchef</b></div><div>I seem to be in the minority here but I just don't see Monahan having first round value.</div></div>
Compare his built, stats, and leadership to that of Elias Lindholm. Monahan comes at half the price tag... As a rental, I'd say that Monahan is potentially worth more than Lindholm given the year they're having and the cap hit. As a sign and trade, that'd be a different story maybe.
Now nobody would argue that Lindholm is not worth at least a first as a rental.
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Trade Machine Proposals
12 janv. à 6 h 49
Sujet:
Mtl-SJ
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