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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 17 h 57
Sujet: Rossi is available but READ ME
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNCountryClub</b></div><div>It's Greig and a 2nd before Greig played a game. If you think that's an overpay relative to 19th OA and Faber (the ACTUAL return), then you're just being willfully dense.

All of those are pretty much on par with the real return plus/minus a bit.

Revisionist history.

edit - well to be clear, they're all signficantly under the actual return now that Faber has broken out. But at the time, he was that tier of prospect.</div></div>

Did you even read what I said? You are being dishonest using armchair GMs from way before the trade happened before Fiala had his great season.

These were your armchair GMs in the off season before he got traded.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3205771

This one you even had the 2nd overall pick being traded for Fiala. And multiple trades involving top 10 picks.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3260025

You have the 7th + Grieg or the 7th + Jarventie

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3244115

This was the 7th + Gustavsson

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3286006

This was Holmstrom + 13th pick + 2nd.

So yes. You way overvalued Fiala on many of these GMs.
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 18 h 39
Sujet: Rossi is available but READ ME
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>Flyers also thought Ristolainen was worth trading a 14th and a 39th overall pick for a few years ago, it's not like teams don't get it wrong.

But again, you misunderstand, like everyone else. The point isn't that Rossi is available and these are the types of players it'll take to get him, it's that Rossi is only available if he could return this type of player. There's a massive, important, distinct difference there.</div></div>

"Flyers also thought Ristolainen was worth trading a 14th and a 39th overall pick for a few years ago, it's not like teams don't get it wrong."

What does this even mean? Nobody is talking about whether trades worked out. We're talking about how other teams value certain player. Risto was still valued highly by many teams because of his size. They weren't the only team interested. On the flip side the Flyers valued a smaller injury prone RD over Rossi.

Also completely different Flyers GMs made those trades

" it's that Rossi is only available if he could return this type of player." Your type of player doesn't make any sense though. Since they are all wildly different.
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 18 h 3
Sujet: Rossi is available but READ ME
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNCountryClub</b></div><div>As expected, nobody reads, everyone thinks their prospects are untouchable and suddenly the traded player is awful. If only there was a way to monetize predicting how CF threads would unfold.

I remember being told Fiala wouldn't return jack **** bc MN had no leverage and that everyone's favorite team DEFINITELY didn't have interest.</div></div>

'I remember being told Fiala wouldn't return jack **** bc MN had no leverage and that everyone's favorite team DEFINITELY didn't have interest."

It was kind of the opposite. Wild fans thought Fiala would return a top 10 pick + blue chip prospect + roster player. Also Wild fans posting armchair GMs of him getting the 2nd overall pick from the Devils.

Fans of other teams said they'd get a 1st + solid prospect, but won't get a top 10 pick. They were pretty spot on with his value since we already had plenty examples of other RFAs getting traded to look at.

Seems like Wild fans are back on the kool aid with Rossi.