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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 1 heure

Sujet: hell na

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>Can't see Lindholm signing that.
That Bruins trade is... interesting.</div></div>

Bruins would have to give up more for Necas

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 1 heure

Sujet: Necas to Utah

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Not really sure what Carolina fans expect to get for Necas. Crouse is a decent piece who has scored 20+ 3 seasons in a row. It’s widely known Necas isn’t really a piece that will stay in Carolina, I don’t see the team having a ton of leverage in a trade</div></div>

They'll have bidders for Necas, but I would think Necas would have to agree to a long-term extension to get the move done.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 1 heure

Sujet: Necas to Utah

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Faeyla</b></div><div>Friedman had a report that Pesce turned down a 5x5 deal at the beginning of the offseason, which led us to try and see who we can trade him to. Nothing worked out, DeAngelo was brought in again, and that's that. Many of us assume he's gone now, especially with expectations of Morrow sliding up to his spot next year.

Teravainen, I'd love to keep around, but we'll see what he wants for a deal first. (It's already looking like Unger Sorum might be the Teravainen replacement with how well he played for us in the preseason for next year or the year after.) Skjei is the biggest worry since he'll have a ton of leverage thanks to his performances the past two seasons.</div></div>

From what I have seen in the rumor mill, it sounds like Necas, Turbo, and Pesce are not coming back to Carolina. I haven't seen anything on Skjei so maybe they are choosing to retain Skjei over Necas? I think its a foregone conclusion that Pesce is gone.

Canes are definitely prioritizing Guentzel and Jarvis.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 11 h 32

Sujet: Necas to Utah

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Yes. Easily, the likelihood that a player of his skill will drafted with those picks is low. Again we don’t get to this point, it wouldn’t make sense for necas to take that risk</div></div>

Agree to disagree... they should deal him early in the offseason to maximize their leverage because otherwise I think it creates issues for the Canes and they run the risk of Necas taking a one year deal and walking next year for nothing.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 11 h 25

Sujet: Necas to Utah

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Necas is the uninterested party here. Necas wouldn’t do an offer sheet knowing the canes would match</div></div>

So they would match a $7M+ offer sheet on a player who doesn't want to be there and will probably create issues/force his way out at some point instead of taking multiple draft picks?

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 11 h 19

Sujet: Necas to Utah

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Canes would match the offer sheet of Necas and Jarvis easily. If someone wants drury we’ll easily take that 2nd</div></div>

If they don't have plans to re-sign Necas, why would they match an offer sheet on him?

Jarvis is going to get $7M+ AAV

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 1 h 1

Sujet: oilers off-season

Bruins accept

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 0 h 58

Sujet: Necas

Necas doesn't sign for less than $6M and is more likely in the $7M range.

Also this team misses the playoffs... can't have Rittich as your #1

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 22 h 59

Sujet: Lindholm Bandwagonish

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJTM</b></div><div>What team do you suppose this is? Colorado does not have its 2025 first, neither does Toronto. Edmonton doesn’t have its 2024 first. Los Angeles has to empty their bank account for Quinton Byfield and probably can’t take on Linus Ullmark without shedding significant salary (Dubois).

NJD has the most draft capital after a trade deadline season of selling and acquiring extra draft capital. The Devils would have the most ammo to go after Linus Ullmark.</div></div>

Teams that could/should be in the goaltender market: Chicago, Colorado, Columbus, Detroit, Edmonton, LAK, Montreal, New Jersey, Ottawa, Pitt, Philly, San Jose, Toronto, and Utah. Some of those teams like Pitt/Columbus/Ottawa probably won't be aggressive in adding a goalie given their cap situation/goalie contracts on the roster. I don't think Boston would trade Ullmark to Toronto unless its a massive overpay.

Colorado, Detroit, Edmonton, LAK, and New Jersey will probably be the most aggressive because they are good teams that could be contenders but are held back by their goaltending situations. LAK has $19M+ in cap space and some middle 6 forwards to sign. They can afford Ullmark without shedding PLD. I don't think Boston would care much about 2024 1st vs 2025 1st. We'll see but I think some team will give them a 1st and possibly a mid-round pick for Ullmark.

1st and 3rd seems to be the historical comp for a Vezina caliber goalie

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 22 h 27

Sujet: Lindholm Bandwagonish

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJTM</b></div><div>There’s no reason to pay this price. Boston’s hand is forced. The only thing to be is the best offer, not full value. They will not receive a similar offer from LAK, EDM, TOR or COL.</div></div>

I would bet Ullmark brings back at least a 1st from some team... a lot of teams are going to be in the goalie market this offseason and Ullmark might be the best one available.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 19 h 39

Sujet: Everyone gets paid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Yeah I don't think they'd be available either, but I think Lohrei would likely be the secondary ask by Carolina if you want necas.

The Pionk, Levi, Faber of the deal</div></div>

That's probably fair. Faber would probably be the closest comparison but IMO Lohrei has a bit more value now than Faber did at the time he was traded since Faber was still playing college and hadn't turned pro yet.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 17 h 45

Sujet: This is the Way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Jack Hughes plays center tho. He just can’t win faceoffs.

Necas can’t win faceoffs and ALSO isnt a center</div></div>

That's reportedly part of the reason he is leaving the Canes... he has played center everywhere except for Brind'Amour. Necas thinks he is a center and Rod hasn't given much of an opportunity to play center.

I would love to get a Canes fan opinion on Necas at center. From what I have seen from his play, I think he 100% could be a high-end center in the NHL

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 17 h 42

Sujet: Everyone gets paid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>If I believed Carolina would trade Necas for Lysell and a late 2025 first to the Bruins, maybe I’d entertain the thought process. I don’t</div></div>

You wouldn't trade Lysell, a 2024 3rd, 2025 1st, and 2026 2nd for Necas?

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 48

Sujet: This is the Way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jwirb12</b></div><div>Necas and pasta on the same line would be a net negative. 34% at the dot he’s not a center</div></div>

Disagree - he would immediately be one of the top offensive players on the team. Outside of this year, his other seasons were closer to 45 and 46% at the dot... just don't put him on the face-off in key defensive situations. IMO Zacha-Necas-Pasta would be one of the best lines in hockey.

Jack Hughes has never topped 40% at the dot and he still plays center. You can work around it: Coyle, Beecher, Geekie, Zacha, Poitras... there are enough guys who can win a faceoff in key situations.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 40

Sujet: Everyone gets paid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Value wise yeah but I think to be the winning bid you’d have to replace Merkulov, Lauko, 2nd and 3rd with 1 more valuable piece worth a pick around 29-35. From NJD I’d consider that like a Gritysuk. Maybe for Boston that’s Lysell or Lohrei. I think Poitras would be a tier above that but idk about his injury impact on value.</div></div>

I would think that Lohrei/Poitras are untouchable unless you are getting a surefire superstar (closer to an Aho than a Necas). If I was Sweeney, I would be willing to add Lysell to get Necas if he extends for 8 years at $7M AAV - I would rather do that than sign Elias Lindholm to the same contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 28

Sujet: Canes CAN afford Necas

Jarvis probably gets $6.5-7M AAV and Guentzel might come closer to $9.5M.

They can afford him, but probably realize that Slavin is going to need to get paid and want to build more depth in the bottom 6. IMO I would trade Kuznetsov, KK, and Burns before dealing Necas

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 18

Sujet: Everyone gets paid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>We don’t have the asset base we’d be willing to give to get Necas. Period. Unless you are tossing Swayman into the mix, this isn’t a thing</div></div>

Merkulov, Lauko, a first, second, and a third could probably get it done

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 12 h 55

Sujet: Everyone gets paid

Bruins should absolutely bring back Debrusk... can't rely on Marchand to continue to produce forever and I like Debrusk at that number. Would probably be willing to go to 6 years on him. He can play every situation and I think we still haven't seen JDB at his peak.

I also like bringing Forbort back for defensive depth.

Not a fan of moving Beecher to the wing and putting Geekie on the 4th line. IMO Freddy-Poitras-Geekie should be a lock for the third line at the start of next year.

Maroon is probably gone and I am not sure I see a spot for Heinen on the roster.

Not a fan of the Elias Lindholm contract - too much money and too long of a term. I would rather use the picks from the Ullmark deal to go acquire Necas.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 12 h 43

Sujet: Retool

A 39 year old unretained Burns is not gonna get a 4th round pick

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 12 h 16

Sujet: This is the Way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jwirb12</b></div><div>Necas is horrible at center and doesn’t know what defense means. Plus it won’t cost that much they are preparing to let him walk</div></div>

Necas looked very good at center when they put talent on his wings... he reminds me of Krejci a bit in that sense. With Zacha and Pasta on his wings, Necas could be a 90 point player IMO and I think Pasta could hit 120 points.

Not concerned about his two-way game, Bruins need offense and the rest of the line-up is defensively solid.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 23 h 22

Sujet: Leafs and Bruins Swap

Bruins decline

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 23 h 22

Sujet: Ullmark Trade And Former Hurricane Additions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>I would expect the Teravainen and Skjei contracts to be painful.</div></div>

Huge overpays for both particularly Skjei

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 17 h 11

Sujet: Necas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>this you? you cant say too small to draw conclusions when you did it just one post earlier, especially after being proven completely wrong..</div></div>

Allow me to be more clear... on the whole I believe Ullmark is a more valuable goaltender. He is younger, his career regular season stats are better, an he has won a Vezina.

If you want to play the playoff game, Ullmark's only start this postseason was better than any of Anderson's starts in the Rangers series with the exception of Game 5.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 16 h 40

Sujet: What will be the haul for Draisaitl

Doesn't Drai have a full NMC? He'll be able to dictate where he goes

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 16 h 28

Sujet: Necas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>he is not. do a little research.

Ullmark's playoff average .887.
Freddie hasnt ended a playoff year with the low of a number. His career is a .914</div></div>

Ullmark's playoff sample size is pretty small... only 10 games total and he was reportedly injured for most of them (the 6 games last season). IMO the sample size is too small to draw conclusions.

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