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Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. 2021 à 17 h 41
Sujet: After further review
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>SammyT and other Leafs fans seem to believe we could get Rielly for Akil Thomas, 2021 or 2022 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd.

I think the Nashville trade makes most sense for the Kings, but that's just me. At one point, Fabbro was said to have top 2 potential. He's not really working out in Nashville it seems like though and obviously Ekholm is on the block and he'd make a perfect short term partner for Doughty while Anderson and Bjornfot develop with easier minutes.</div></div>

If the Leafs are trading Rielly they definitely need a return that helps them now and Thomas plus picks is probably an under-pay anyway. Vilardi plus a 1st seems fair assuming the Kings are re-signing Rielly long-term in the process.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. 2021 à 14 h 33
Sujet: Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Miles_Togo</b></div><div>Blake wanting (according to Friedman) to trade for a 25 or younger dynamic LHD means that Blake has little confidence that Clague is going to fill that role. Bjornfot and Anderson despite capable LHD are not dynamic. Dermott is not dynamic either, so I can't see LA trading for him. Lehtonen is dynamic, but 27, and a tire fire in his own end, and trading for him would make no sense as he is UFA this summer and they could just sign him. I am sure Toronto would gladly trade Lehtonen now if anyone was willing to give up anything half decent for him (and I would celebrate).</div></div>

Yeah I think a trade centered around Sandin for a Kings C prospect would be more fitting with what the Kings need. I would want Vilardi or better in return though (ducks for cover).
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. 2021 à 13 h 58
Sujet: Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>It was on the NHL App news feed the other day.

Again, Dermott would be lost to Seattle because we can't protect him so it would basically be Liljegren and Sandin which is declined by LA. No team ever trades their 21 year old 2C for prospects. Ever. I don't care about value, it doesn't happen nor should it. Dermott has been in the NHL on one of the best offensive teams in the league and hasn't done anything worth protecting him over Clague. Clague played 18-20 mins a game and did great, he's not worth losing so we can protect Dermott.</div></div>

One more time because I have nothing better to do: Kale Clague is almost 23 years old and is currently playing in the AHL. Travis Dermott is 24 years old and has played 175 games on a far superior team. And he has consistently won the minutes he's been given by any reasonable metric.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. 2021 à 13 h 39
Sujet: Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>I can assure you, the Kings don't see it as the "light under the tunnel" and don't worry I know the tactic of trying to convince fans their player isn't as good as he is so you can make the trade happen, but that doesn't work on most people here and definitely not Kings fans.

Vilardi is a Calder candidate and is 2nd in votes in our division. Obviously Kaprizov is going to win it, but it shows you how the league sees Vilardi, not just the Kings fans.

Vilardi is off limits no matter how bad you want to downplay his value.</div></div>

Where are these Calder votes you're talking about? You realize the voting happens at the end of the year right?

And also, I'm entirely open to the fact that the trade as proposed might not work. It's statements like "Kings say no to Vilardi for Sandin, Liljegren, and Dermott", or "the Kings would protect Clague over Dermott" that show you're over-valuing your players.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. 2021 à 13 h 25
Sujet: Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>Mikey Anderson who already has a few Calder votes would definitely be playing 3LD if he were on the Leafs, but that's a useless argument.

Given the fact that half the teams in the league don't have a good 2C, I'd say you're wrong about Vilardi.

It doesn't matter though because as it stands the Kings are right outside a playoff spot and Vilardi is a big part in why we aren't at the bottom again.

That argument that because the Kings are a bad team that's why he plays 2C instead of 3C doesn't really hold weight anymore.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>Mikey Anderson who already has a few Calder votes would definitely be playing 3LD if he were on the Leafs, but that's a useless argument.

Given the fact that half the teams in the league don't have a good 2C, I'd say you're wrong about Vilardi.

It doesn't matter though because as it stands the Kings are right outside a playoff spot and Vilardi is a big part in why we aren't at the bottom again.

That argument that because the Kings are a bad team that's why he plays 2C instead of 3C doesn't really hold weight anymore.</div></div>

I get it, the past few years have been tough and any signs of light at the end of the tunnel will get you excited. But being outside the playoffs after 20 games means absolutely nothing. Kings are bottom of the league in expected goals percentage at 5v5 so I would be looking for them to come back to earth.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. 2021 à 13 h 16
Sujet: Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>The problem here is (1) Vilardi has already graduated and Sandin has not (2) That Sandin couldn’t beat out Dermott and Lehtonen for more ice time this season tells me he’s not ready yet (3) Vilardi is already a Calder candidate and eating real minutes at the NHL than Sandin (4) could you please show the prospect ranking list that has Vilardi and Sandin close? They have always been in different draft tiers.

I don’t want Sandin if I’m Blake, I want Lehtonen, Vilardi is the Kings best graduated prospect if a team wants him, it won’t be cheap.</div></div>

Who do you mean by Lehtonen? Surely you don't mean Mikko Lehtonen.

A few recent prospect rankings published by The Athletic have Sandin ahead of Vilardi. I haven't seen anywhere that has the reverse. Mind you Vilardi's stock has surely risen this year.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. 2021 à 16 h 44
Sujet: Big Offseason Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfrojelin</b></div><div>Not sure how most Sharks fans feel, personally I would take this. I think it is on par with his value, but because the Sharks seem to not wanna give him up, they want a team to overpay. Niemela would be a great get, we need another RD prospect cuz we legit have 1, then obviously Amirov is great and then likely a late second.

He does need more ice time than third line minutes tho. I'm also not sure he fits the Leafs playing style too great. Think kinda low grade Malkin. Not a tough guy, but super strong physically, great puck possessor and board player. Not sure the Leafs would use him that way.</div></div>

All of those qualities sound like they would fit in nicely with the Leafs given their emphasis on puck possession and need for players that are strong on the boards. Agree that 3C is a bit beneath Hertl, but I would envision him getting plenty of time in the top 6 and PP.