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Armchair-GM
8 juin 2021 à 18 h 20
Sujet:
We the North
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lyle_Bubas</b></div><div>I'm rooting for the habs tbh
I hate boston/islanders, tampa already got their cup, canes I'm indifferent towards, colorado/vegas meh
bring the cup to canada gentlemen</div></div>
Hello Lyle Bubas, I am requesting your return to twitter. We all really miss you and want you back
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Armchair-GM
30 mai 2021 à 2 h 14
Sujet:
Get Connor and Leon Some Damn Help
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lyle_Bubas</b></div><div>nothing says help like ryan getzlaf and corey perry</div></div>
All Hail Foligno Lyle Bubas
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Armchair-GM
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 10
Sujet:
My ideal offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>He's the guy successive NHL coaches have relied on the most to go up against the opposition's best players. I do trust their judgement over yours.</div></div>
I wasn't make a judgement, I was providing evidence. You said my dcore is going to leak GA. I countered with Darnell Nurse being on the ice for the 2nd most GA per 60 minutes.
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Armchair-GM
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 7
Sujet:
My ideal offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Nurse has played ahead of Klefbom for 4 years now, since he was 22. Klefbom is also not going to be as good as he was coming off an 18+ month layoff - if he ever comes back. Your D corps is going to leak GA like crazy, your bottom-6 is trash and you have $15M in goaltenders when only 1 guy can play at a time!</div></div>
So my dcore is supposedly going to leak GA like crazy. Your solution is Darnell Nurse? He's 2nd worst in GA/60 for Oilers dmen in the last 2 seasons (2nd to Barrie). Hmmm
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Armchair-GM
13 mai 2021 à 13 h 59
Sujet:
My ideal offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>So let me get this right:
Your ideal offseason includes trading your best defenseman and taking on a bunch of bad contracts?? Just when we thought this team was ready to be a legit contender!</div></div>
Klefbom is still there??? I don't get it
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Armchair-GM
13 mai 2021 à 13 h 59
Sujet:
My ideal offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rylee92</b></div><div>I'm a Leaf fan and I can tell you Nurse has WAY more value than Willy</div></div>
Perfect. I won't complain to the Leafs adding
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Armchair-GM
13 mai 2021 à 12 h 54
Sujet:
My ideal offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>Oilers finlly have a legit number 1 D after how many years since Pronger and you want to trade him. Seriously???</div></div>
Klefbom is right there???
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Armchair-GM
21 avr. 2021 à 16 h 45
Sujet:
Dont Spend on Bottom 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>uphere</b></div><div>Lagesson is exempt from the expansion draft because he doesn't have enough NHL games played. He needs to get into 10 more, which seems unlikely at this point.
A lot rides on how the NHL views Klefbom's situation. He hasn't played in over a year, and if the NHL decides that his career is in jeopardy because of his shoulder issues then he will not be available for the expansion draft and Edmonton will not be required to protect him. I don't recall the NHL ever making a decision in favor of the Oilers, so it seems likely Holland will have to decide whether or not to protect Klefbom. But if I am wrong, and the NHL decides Klefbom's prognosis is poor, then Holland will be in a pretty good position.
As things stand at the moment, if the NHL does Holland a favor then Seattle may have to choose from Neal, Turris, Kassian, and Kris Russell... of those, I am going to guess that Kassian would be Seattle's choice. The list changes is Holland comes to terms with either or both of RNH and Larsson before they hit the UFA market. Signing RNH will likely result in Archibald being exposed in the draft. Signing Larsson will result in Jones being exposed.
I think securing RHN under reasonable contract terms is well worth the possibility of losing Archibald, and I feel the same way about securing Larsson under reasonable contract terms at the expense of quite likely losing Jones. The catch is that the either, or both of RNH and Larsson might price themselves out of Edmonton.
Another possible move Holland might make is leaving Koskinen exposed and protecting Stalock. I think that is very unlikely to occur, unless Holland feels he has the inside track on signing a guy like Dreidger or Ullmark, and possibly bringing back Smith on another one-year value deal.
Its all speculation, but that's what makes it interesting.</div></div>
Lagesson isn't exempt
I'm protecting Jones regardless of Larsson's contract situation
And I protect Skinner in the expansion draft
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 54
Sujet:
Dont Spend on Bottom 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>curious as to why you think RNH takes that contract?</div></div>
Good thing I left lots of cap space available to make adjustments to that contract to get it done
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 févr. 2021 à 1 h 50
Sujet:
Use TDA to get rid of a contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vegasloveforthebills</b></div><div>I think it’s a good idea for a team like Edmonton, but I probably try Neal.
Yes, I know kassians deal is one year longer, but the extra space would be worth it. Also there is a slightly higher chance Seattle takes Kassian, and then you can possibly get rid of both.</div></div>
Neal would be better 100%, but it doesn't make sense for NYR. They could just hold TDA and buy him out at the offseason. With Kassian, they get a serviceable player.
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Armchair-GM
2 févr. 2021 à 19 h 43
Sujet:
Use TDA to get rid of a contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>It’s a good idea but the optics would be bad.</div></div>
Tell him to stay home. Don't have him report anywhere
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Armchair-GM
19 janv. 2021 à 18 h 41
Sujet:
Next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DRshnuckels87</b></div><div>Im not the biggest fan of bringing hall back for that much and that price I think theres some cheaper options out there for edmonton to look into that could still be a servicable wing to mcdavid.</div></div>
I would agree, but I tried to keep it semi realistic. And I believe we've gonna go after Hall this offseason. My preference would be to sign Coleman
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 déc. 2020 à 22 h 20
Sujet:
Oilers
Great team
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 déc. 2020 à 23 h 47
Sujet:
Marchessault
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hidalgo</b></div><div>Asking price is prob 2nds and 3rds rather than 4ths and 5ths, but Edmonton could get that for Larsson too, so your point stands</div></div>
Yeah, didn't want to guess what we could and couldn't get for each player. That leads to a different discussion. The general point being that we can afford Marchessault and we should be after him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 nov. 2020 à 15 h 0
Sujet:
Still not satisfied
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Cagguila's goal differential over the past 3 years: 84-103 [-19 or 44.9 GF%]. On-ice scoring rates: 2.61 GF/60 - 3.21 GA/60 = -0.60 G/60
Chiasson's goal differential over the past 3 years: 75-77 [-2 or 49.3 GF%]. On-ice scoring rates: 2.03 GF/60 - 2.08 GA/60 = -0.05 G/60
Cagguila isn't better.
You clearly don't understand the impact of QoC. Some players can be trusted to defend against the opposition's best players and some can't. Larsson has had some struggles the past few years (injury, bereavement) but seems to be healthy now. He isn't going to be a healthy scratch to make way for Journeyman-Jan. There isn't a single NHL coach that would do that.</div></div>
I'll humor with the QoC by looking at Larsson's stats against elite comp (according to PuckIQ). In the last 2 seasons, Larsson is 11th of our dmen in DFF% vs Elite comp. That's below noted "studs" like Joel Persson, Chris Wideman, Brandon Manning, Kevin Gravel, Jason Garrison, and Matt Benning. 11th again in CF% vs elite comp. 9th in GF% vs elite comp.
Real keeper there. Can't afford to lose him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 nov. 2020 à 18 h 0
Sujet:
Still not satisfied
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>No, he isn't.
Sure, and Larsson. He's a bona fide top-4 defender. Leave Ruuta in the pressbox.</div></div>
In the last 3 seasons, Drake has outproduced Chiasson 5v5 while playing a lot less games (6 more 5v5 points in 37 less games to be exact). While Chiasson's defensive impact is slightly better, it's not enough to offset Caggiula's offensive impact. And we need offensive impact in our bottom 6, as Haas and Nygard are among the best in the league in terms of defensive impact.
I genuinely don't understand this site's man crush on Adam Larsson, and I certainly don't understand other GM's crushes on him, but I sure as hell would like to abuse it. Larsson is above average defensively, but is such an offensive black hole that his defensive impact means nothing. He has a 5v5 +/- of -41(!!!!) in the last 2 seasons. And an expected 5v5 +/- of -8. Rutta, on the contrary has a 5v5 +/- of +16 and an expected 5v5 +/- of +3. Significantly better than Larsson.
Like I said earlier, I don't understand why any GM would value Larsson, but if there's a market for him (there is), then we should look to trade him. We'll recoup our lost assets, we'll shed $3.2M in cap, and we'll very possibly upgrade at the RD spot
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Armchair-GM
16 nov. 2020 à 14 h 49
Sujet:
Still not satisfied
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Pretty sure Miller wants to stay in SoCal. If he can't get a contract in that region he'll probably just retire. I can't see him moving his family to Edmonton for just 1 season and not a lot of money.
And Drake Caggiula again? Didn't Oilers fans learn from last time?
Ruuta is NOT a top-4 defenseman.</div></div>
Caggiula is an upgrade on Chiasson.
According to Chris Johnston, we were deciding between Miller and Smith, we made the wrong decision.
Rutta can play bottom pairing then. Move Barrie up.
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Armchair-GM
16 nov. 2020 à 14 h 48
Sujet:
Still not satisfied
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeyconnor97</b></div><div>"We don't have any good penalty killers"
*Proceeds to bury our two best penalty killers on fairly cheap contracts</div></div>
Yes. Like I said, I value good 5v5 play over the 4 minutes a game we'd need to PK
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Armchair-GM
16 nov. 2020 à 14 h 48
Sujet:
Still not satisfied
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>You said we upgraded everywhere except RD. We swapped out benning and added Barrie as much as I do really like benning that’s a significant step forward.
We didn’t do anything on the left side but no real need to do so with jones requiring ice time this season so as much as klef situation sucks it couldn’t have came up at a better time. Russell was extended to meet requirements for expansion but 0% gets taken. Seems Holland did his homework on the goalie front and willing to bet Miller was looked at and didn’t sign assuming there’s a reason why he went back to smith which I don’t see as a problem was alright last season and do like his personality around the team one of the more outspoken players with loads of experience. I wouldn’t sign koekkoek at this stage we currently have room for one of Lagesson who I’m actually very interested in seeing or Bouchard.</div></div>
What I should've said is "I upgraded everywhere except RD"
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 33
Sujet:
Salvaging our bad offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>While I no longer advocate the extension of Adam Larsson, to discount the role he plays on this team is disingenuous at best: he is Edmonton's strongest defensive option on the blueline and eats a myriad of minutes. There's value in having him paired with Jones for this season: Edmonton's going to be running a very young blueline for the foreseeable future and maximizing how much Adam can pass onto guys like Jones and Bear before he leaves has value. If you trade Larsson, the structure of the blueline as a whole crumbles: you either end up with Bear playing 24+ minutes a night or Russell playing more than 16. I don't think he's by far the most optimal name Edmonton could be employing, but given that there's but a year left on his deal, he's far from being the primary issue this team had last year. A healthy Larsson is a legitimate top-4 option. The only caveat is that he needs to be healthy.
Burying Neal makes no sense at all, short or long-term. You only gain a hair over a million dollars in cap flexibility: fundamentally it makes more sense to bite the bullet on a buyout and take on more cap savings for success now despite the three extra years of his $2M buyout hit. You appear to have tried to find a middle ground, but only found an inferior option. The play is to pay another team to take (at minimum) 50% of his deal or buy him out. Maybe this season, maybe next, but burying him shouldn't be the primary option. Even Montreal saw the light in an Alzner buyout.
Bouchard doesn't need to be in the NHL this season. An extra year of development isn't hurting him.</div></div>
I advocate for Bouchard to play, but Larsson hasn't been moved. If you all insist that a 30% 5v5 GF% dman needs to play, he will fit under the cap with Bouchard in the minors.
Burying Neal makes a lot of sense. We can fit him under the cap this season, so by burying him this season, we shave 1 year off his eventual buyout if we choose to do so. Buying him out next season has us on the hook until 2025 instead of 2026. But yes, I agree that paying another team to take him at 50% retention is the best move. I just didn't want to speculate too much on trades. I wanted this to be centralized around what we can do on our own account.
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Armchair-GM
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 29
Sujet:
Salvaging our bad offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>I like Kahun addition but if any of this makes sense to you wow been given ya a lot more credit in the past. This is very close to one of the worst attempts at an oilers roster I’ve seen. Horrible asset management sending down Neal at twice the cost of a buyout. Nothing here works or makes sense. Doing nothing would have had better results than this</div></div>
It's great asset management if anything. Not buying out Neal when we don't have to will shave 1 year off his eventual buyout. And I genuinely don't know where you see the downgrade. Nobody has been moved out, and better players have been brought in. Neal is at best, the 13th F on the roster.
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Armchair-GM
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 22
Sujet:
Salvaging our bad offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>He was on pace for 30 goals this past season before breaking his foot.....</div></div>
All on the powerplay. Considering our team was outscored 4-1 without McDavid and Draisaitl on the ice, I'll take Kahun's 5v5 production over Neal's PP production. The powerplay was actually more successful with Chiasson playing net than it was with Neal, so there's literally no reason for James Neal to be on the team
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Armchair-GM
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 18
Sujet:
Salvaging our bad offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>We were second in the division this past year....
we made the second round of playoffs with larsson on the team we have seen far more consistent lottery picks with hall around. Idk seems like a no brainer to me able to connect the dots of what has worked and has not. Don’t get me wrong I love hall style of play but extremely overrated</div></div>
Right, our recent success has everything to do with Adam Larsson, and nothing to do with McDavid and Draisaitl. How could I be so stupid?
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Armchair-GM
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 17
Sujet:
Salvaging our bad offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Radu47</b></div><div>If C Jones was a bit better I'd agree with you 100% on Larsson, who handles tough deployment well enough to warrant an NHL spot, but yeah not great 😐
Everything else is superb here and I really like Kahun there due to his very underrated scoring abilities
Would be neat see Larsson swapped for someone</div></div>
Like I said elsewhere. I like Larsson, I don't like Barrie. Ideally I'd have never signed Barrie and kept Larsson on the team
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Armchair-GM
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 16
Sujet:
Salvaging our bad offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>What purpose is there sending Neal to Bakersfield? On what planet does it make any sense to send down a guy who is a lock for 20-25 goals with his eyes closed to save what a million dollars? Your not replacing what he provides for any sort of cap savings so why?</div></div>
Neal hasn't scored 20 goals since 2018 and Kahun has move 5v5 points this season than Neal does in the last 2 combined.
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