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Win Win with Edmonton

Créé par: Vikes98
Équipe: 2017-18 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 2 nov. 2017
Publié: 2 nov. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The reasoning from the Pittsburgh perspective is that they have enough wingers that can step and play but they have been successful with 4 good centers that can all contribute offensively and on special teams, they are not at their best when defending so its better to sell out on their strength, Sheahan is good defensively and PK but doesn't add to the attack, they also need a more capable 2nd PP center.

From EDM's point of view, they need cost certainty and control going forward as well as capable low cost players down the middle. Hags provides speed to keep up with 97, he is signed for 1 more season, he also is a "winner" has experience guy that Chiarelli likes, Adam Johnson is a capable top 9 forward on his ELC. Cole is there more to make it work for PIT but he is also a responsible blue liner, and has "Jam". The picks will also provide cheap ELC players to keep EDM going. I will also do this from EDMs side.
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PIT
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Cole, Ian
  2. Hagelin, Carl
  3. Johnson, Adam
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
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2018
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2019
Logo de PIT
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $73 935 725 $50 000 $805 000 $1 064 275 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
640 000 $640 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
692 500 $692 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
734 167 $734 167 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
2 075 000 $2 075 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
625 000 $625 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
3 333 225 $3 333 225 $
DG
UFA - 5
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
630 833 $630 833 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
G
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
705 000 $705 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DD
RFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
612 500 $612 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1

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2 nov. 2017 à 14 h 9
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I don't know why Oilers fans seem to think Nugent-Hopkins is so valuable. He's a slightly below average 2nd line centre.
2 nov. 2017 à 14 h 30
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Quoting: Christian17
I don't know why Oilers fans seem to think Nugent-Hopkins is so valuable. He's a slightly below average 2nd line centre.


Was it not Hanzal nearly 7 months ago that was traded for a mid 1st and 2nd as rental? Here's the difference Nuge is signed long term. So how is this value far off to reality? Cole valued at a 2nd rounder while Hagelin is in the same range as a 3rd rounder while Nuge who is younger is probably worth a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd easily.
2 nov. 2017 à 14 h 50
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Quoting: OilersNation
Quoting: Christian17
I don't know why Oilers fans seem to think Nugent-Hopkins is so valuable. He's a slightly below average 2nd line centre.


Was it not Hanzal nearly 7 months ago that was traded for a mid 1st and 2nd as rental? Here's the difference Nuge is signed long term. So how is this value far off to reality? Cole valued at a 2nd rounder while Hagelin is in the same range as a 3rd rounder while Nuge who is younger is probably worth a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd easily.


Did you actually say that Ryan Nugent Hopkins is worth a 1, 2 and 3 round draft pick? the term of his contract doesnt add value, it takes away.
2 nov. 2017 à 15 h 49
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Quoting: Christian17
I don't know why Oilers fans seem to think Nugent-Hopkins is so valuable. He's a slightly below average 2nd line centre.


Id say he is an average 2C, He is better offensively and weaker on D. He is weaker at D compared to the 2nd line archetype, but still better than Bonino was. He is slightly below where Staal was in 2011-2012 Defensively but about equal offensively. As for the cost Centers have a highly inflated value right now and Cole and Hags are necessary from PITs standpoint to make the deal work.
2 nov. 2017 à 16 h 18
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I like and think its fair for a 3rd line C that is overpaid but still think Edmonton will want something to help them now too ... ie a Sheary or Rust? But wouldnt want to trade either of them
2 nov. 2017 à 17 h 12
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Id say that Hags, Johnson, and Cole help them now. Id think they would take Rust as a cost control, but Sheary has 3yrs left and his hit will put them too close to the cap when it comes time to resign Yamamoto.
 
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