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if habs want duchene + TDL pickup

Créé par: mhockey91
Équipe: 2017-18 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 3 oct. 2017
Publié: 3 oct. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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no, sakics asking price is not coming down. you want duchene? pay up
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COL
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Juulsen, Noah
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $67 587 976 $0 $300 000 $7 412 024 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
912 500 $912 500 $
C
UFA - 1
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
725 000 $725 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 9
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
1 062 500 $1 062 500 $
G
UFA - 2
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
1 425 000 $1 425 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DD
UFA - 1

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3 oct. 2017 à 12 h 21
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Finally, a realistic value for Duchene.
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3 oct. 2017 à 15 h 31
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Finally, a realistic value for Duchene.


Realistic value in Sakic's mind, But in the real world no way montreal makes this trade because Duchene is not even close to worth that.
3 oct. 2017 à 17 h 47
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Finally, a realistic value for Duchene.


Please find a similar trade in the NHL history that was remotely close to this........... Because everyone saying this is fair value clearly doesn't look at market value nor player historical value correctly.

IN NO WAY IS DUCHENE WORTH ALL THAT IF HE'S COMING OFF A BAD YEAR AND ONLY HAS 2 YEARS LEFT BEFORE FREE AGENCY.

Edit: Maybe if he was coming off back to back 60-70 pt seasons, yes.
3 oct. 2017 à 18 h 46
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What you are getting in duchene is a true first line centre. Yes he had a bad year but look at how bad Colorado was. This is a guy that’s proven he can score at a 70 point level in the NHL. He’s an Olympic gold medallist but has suffered in a terrible Colorado team. What has galchenyuk done? He’s certainly no where near the talent duchene has. And galchenyuk has an all time low trade value too. Habs managment / coaching are ripping him left and right. Dude is a natural centre and they’re playing him at any position but that. Julsson, while good, is not a “top d prospect” that Sakic is looking for. And a late first round pick isn’t anything special either. I think this trade is spot on. And if habs were to pull this trade... I bet majority of habs fans would be thrilled with it
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Finally, a realistic value for Duchene.


Thankyou sir
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Finally, a realistic value for Duchene.


Thankyou sir


Sign me in and a lot of fans that i know . We could potentially look at a soft all in from Mtl ... Perron is not worth nice futures pieces , but for Duchene ...
3 oct. 2017 à 19 h 7
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Finally, a realistic value for Duchene.


Thankyou sir

Would you trade William Nylander for Duchesne straight up? Cuz if not, this trade is an overpay. You are seriously underestimating Galchenyuk. Just because he was "available" this summer does not mean he is a throw in...
4 oct. 2017 à 13 h 17
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What you are getting in duchene is a true first line centre. Yes he had a bad year but look at how bad Colorado was. This is a guy that’s proven he can score at a 70 point level in the NHL. He’s an Olympic gold medallist but has suffered in a terrible Colorado team. What has galchenyuk done? He’s certainly no where near the talent duchene has. And galchenyuk has an all time low trade value too. Habs managment / coaching are ripping him left and right. Dude is a natural centre and they’re playing him at any position but that. Julsson, while good, is not a “top d prospect” that Sakic is looking for. And a late first round pick isn’t anything special either. I think this trade is spot on. And if habs were to pull this trade... I bet majority of habs fans would be thrilled with it


So its ok to undervalue Galchenyuk but not Duchene?

Excuse me but Duchene is older, more expensive and signed to less term. Duchene is good player but he is not even a #1 center on his team and even in the season where he took the most faceoffs in his career he'd be ranked only 33rd by 16-17 numbers.

Duchene is not a #1 center because if he was, he'd of been traded already. Problem is no one wants to pay #1 prices for a very good #2 center. Same applies here.

Galchenyuk is being ripped no differently then Duchene has been these past couple years in Colorado. Only thing is Gally is younger and still developing his overall game. Duchene had three seasons under his belt before Gally played his first game in the NHL. The trajectory is there for Galchenyuk but he needs time. Just as many players do. He has the offensive ability as he showed he was able to score 30 goals playing center a couple years ago, (A stat Duchene only accomplished at an older age) but alas he plays in MTL so the spotlight is constantly shown on him.

Regardless of anything though, find another trade where a high end talented roster player, a top prospect and a 1st was traded and what it was for. Take that player and compare them to Duchene and see why this would never work.

Like I said, had Duchene be coming off back to back 70 pt seasons I might agree with you but no not after the sh**show hes had the past couple years. If you going to blame the team then the same would apply to Landeskog and Mackinnon yet they are not being held as accountable as Duchene apparently has been. Why is that?
 
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