Not sure if the budget conscious Panthers want Kunitz, but the Carolina trade is good for both teams.

If they don't there's enough cap space to not include him. Likely replaced with a mid round selection (and dropping Florida's) to make the deal work.

Murray AND Bonino for freakin Kris Versteeg? Has 13 points in 21 games changed his value from cap dump to top-5 goalie prospect and 2nd/3rd line centre??

Versteeg had negative value in the summer - because he's not very good - and the Hawks had to dump him. Now he's worth our goalie of the future and solid 3rd line centre?

He is spot on. Versteeg is a 3rd line player. The pens need a top-6 left winger. While I disagree that Murray is our goalie of the future cause Fleury will be around will a lil while and I do think he will be traded, he is worth more than shitty Versteeg. You are vastly undervaluing Murray.

Versteeg has a better HDSCF/60 than any current LW on the Penguins. Compare his 13 points to the combined 15 points that Perron and Hornqvist have. Or the 9 points Dupuis, Kunitz, and Bonino have. Trading a bottom 6 forward and a prospect for a top 6 forward is a win

Murray is at best a 2nd round pick right now. Take off the black and gold glasses. Versteeg is better than any Penguin winger not named Kessel or Hornqvist.

Versteeg has a Points/60 of 1.47 a CF% of 56.46 and his PDO is 98.5.

Dupuis is 1.21 / 43.83 / 100
Hornqvist is 0.97 / 47.86 / 97.8
Bonino is 0.85 / 47 / 99.5
Kunitz is 0.49 / 50.78 / 101.78

Edit: Perron is 0.74 / 48.46 / 99.63

But please tell me how much worse Versteeg is than Bonino or any other forward making less than $6m.

He has better stats playing with the Hurricanes. How is this even an argument? Quit being homers and acknowledge that these forwards stink and Versteeg is better than them.

That fact that ur judging players skill level by looking at how they have performed in the 20 games this year just proves that ur not thinking before commenting. Look at career stats. Versteeg used to be very good when he was with Chicago the first time and Florida. He is not that player anymore. You say that Murray is worth a 2nd rounder but yet you ship him AND Bonino to Carolina for a former 5th rounder who used to very very solid. Bonino for Versteeg is fair, but thats it. Maybe you should quit being a "homer" yourself and think before you speak.

The fact that you're using what round a player was drafted in almost ten years ago shows that you don't think before commenting.

2012 - 2015 5v5 P/60 CF% PDO

Perron 1.6 / 50.4 / 98.6
Bonino 1.8 / 48.7 / 101.3
Versteeg 1.5 / 53.4 / 99.6

Maybe try and bring some facts next time to back up your opinion.

Oh now he looks at a 3 yr. span. I guess all 3 of those guys started their careers in 2012. I guess it's settled then. Maybe you should buy a dictionary and look up the word "Career." You are really just proving me right that Bonino for Versteeg is a fair deal, but I'm sure you are just gonna find those percentages for their careers respectively and continue to prove me right.

Maybe try and bring a brain next time to back up your opinion.

If I do that you'll just complain that Versteeg has played longer so that's not fair. But hey if we move the goal posts far enough then you might be right. Versteeg > Bonino or Perron.

You haven't brought up a single fact to support your argument yet. It's because you can't.

I'll leave you with this career stat: Matt Murray - 0 Games Played 0 Saves Made.

Well I thought I was done but then I found this. Sqm918 Armchair GM Team

You're giving me crap over Bonino + Murray for Versteeg when you proposed Dumolin + Plotnikov for Versteeg?

So instead of trading a 3C who can be replaced by Eric Fehr and a Goalie prospect who, best case scenario, plays 30 games a season for the next four years, you'd rather trade Brian Dumolin? Who is arguably the 2nd best defenseman on the team right now. Who's on a extremely cap friendly deal and a pending RFA. A young Top 4 Defenseman. For a rental player? But hey, Versteeg's career stats are much better than Dumolin's. So that's a no brainer

OK chum, I was wrong. You're proposal is much more fair.

Anything involving trading anything of value for Versteeg is stupid.

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I love it palhal. DD, murray is worth more than any rental player this year. I like the pens forwards at the moment, don't like the defense. The lines have chemistry right now. The defense is just plain bad. Dumo needs to play with letang. They need to trade horny for two defenseman to replace scuds and lovejoy. sprong can fill in for horny.