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Signing UFA's to replace deadline TEARDOWN

Créé par: Theflash9193
Équipe: 2017-18 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 30 août 2017
Publié: 30 août 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Sign a lot of free agents at the beginning of the season to prepare for deadline moves. Trade many players for picks & prospects. Stack up the prospect pool.

This year may be terrible to watch but in Utica there will be a championship team. Utica will be an absolute force with players ready to make the jump next year.

At the draft canucks do a great job drafting in what is a stacked draft.


The year after canucks ship off more free agents to give our prospects more time to develope. ITS NOT RIGHT TO KEEP PROSPECTS IN A LOSING ENVIRONMENT SO SEND THEM TO UTICA. We want them over ripened and coming out like attack dogs!

Uticas lineup could be

Scherbak Dahlen Boeser
Goldobin Boucher Virtanen
Chaput Gaunce MacEwen
Megna Molino Carcone
Juulsen Subban
Pedan Chatfield
Brisbois Biega
Demko
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
65 300 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
12 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
32 500 000 $
12 000 000 $
31 500 000 $
Dahlin, Rasmus
3925 000 $
Groulx, Benoit-Olivier
3925 000 $
Addison, Kale
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. Plekanec, Tomas
  3. Scherbak, Nikita
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Sedin, Henrik (3 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Sedin, Daniel
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
If Pittsburgh doesn't win the cup then the pick becomes a 2nd
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher
Détails additionnels:
Toronto's defence is it's only deficiency with Tanev and Reilly it becomes a strength.
4.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
Logo de VAN
Logo de PIT
Logo de TOR
Logo de VAN
Logo de MTL
Logo de SJS
Logo de NJD
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2019
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2020
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $61 685 000 $0 $0 $13 315 000 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
C
UFA - 6
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
2 835 000 $2 835 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
4 375 000 $4 375 000 $
AD, C
NTC
UFA - 4
700 000 $700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA

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30 août 2017 à 15 h 41
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DelZotto a second rounder? Especially could be 40th overall....C'mon. I doubt if Pittsburg or even the Leafs want those cap hits of Elder and Tanev in 2019. I'm sure the Sedins would only want to go a contender, and it's not the Habs.
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Quoting: palhal
DelZotto a second rounder? Especially could be 40th overall....C'mon. I doubt if Pittsburg or even the Leafs want those cap hits of Elder and Tanev in 2019. I'm sure the Sedins would only want to go a contender, and it's not the Habs.



Gosh ur comment made me laugh

1) if del Zotto plays well next to Tanev which he will. A 2nd rounder at the deadline is realistic. Del Zotto is young as well

2) Edler for a conditional first is quite a nice deal. Its no secret Pittsburgh left side needs another top 4 guy. If they do win that 1st will basically be a 2nd anyways. PLUS IF TRADED AT THE DEADLINE PITTSBURGH WILL ONLY TAKE HALF HIS SALARY.

3) leafs fans know how good Tanev is and they would love to see Tanev and Reilly togther. Maybe id change the 2nd to conditional. But the first makes sense. Tanevs better than hamonic and Gudbranson and look what they got. PLUS IF TRADED AT THE DEALDINE LEAFS WILL TAKE HALF HIS ALREADY CHEAP SALARY.

4) Sedins would love a contender and since montreal has a Weber and price all they are missing is a top 6 cente and winger. Montreal is closer than u think they are just missing a top 6 centre. IF SEDINS ARE TRADED AT THE DEADLINE MONTREAL WOULD ONLY TAKE ABOUT HALF THEIR SALARY. AND ONE IS ALREADY RETAINED.

If you don't watch hockey enough to know any of these why respond? wink
30 août 2017 à 16 h 4
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DelZotto a second rounder? Especially could be 40th overall....C'mon. I doubt if Pittsburg or even the Leafs want those cap hits of Elder and Tanev in 2019. I'm sure the Sedins would only want to go a contender, and it's not the Habs.



Gosh ur comment made me laugh

1) if del Zotto plays well next to Tanev which he will. A 2nd rounder at the deadline is realistic. Del Zotto is young as well

2) Edler for a conditional first is quite a nice deal. Its no secret Pittsburgh left side needs another top 4 guy. If they do win that 1st will basically be a 2nd anyways.

3) leafs fans know how good Tanev is and they would love to see Tanev and Reilly togther. Maybe id change the 2nd to conditional. But the first makes sense. Tanevs better than hamonic and Gudbranson and look what they got

4) Sedins would love a contender and since montreal has a Weber and price all they are missing is a top 6 cente and winger. Montreal is closer than u think they are just missing a top 6 centre.

If you don't watch hockey enough to know any of these why respond? wink


Yeah Flash, I don't think you are all that far off with the Toronto deal. Although I think it would have to happen before the start of the season, a first, along with a prospect, (Rychel, Nielsen, Lindberg, etc. ) or a pick (might have to be a 3rd or 4th) is probably about right. I do agree with Pal though, you'll never get a 2nd for Del Zotto, especially on a young team like NJ. Montreal trade is interesting, but I don't see them in the mix at the deadline so that might have to happen early. Aggressive ask!
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30 août 2017 à 16 h 29
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It is a Very good team well done and definitely what the Canucks need. Del Zotto could get a second especially playing top minutes but i have to agree no way in hell the leafs would give up anything close to that for Chris Tanev maybe a second and one of their many forward prospects they don't have room for. But yeah other then that it's a very interesting team better then the current Canucks management has been doing since the fatal loss to Boston.
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Modifié 30 août 2017 à 16 h 47
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Yeah Flash, I don't think you are all that far off with the Toronto deal. Although I think it would have to happen before the start of the season, a first, along with a prospect, (Rychel, Nielsen, Lindberg, etc. ) or a pick (might have to be a 3rd or 4th) is probably about right. I do agree with Pal though, you'll never get a 2nd for Del Zotto, especially on a young team like NJ. Montreal trade is interesting, but I don't see them in the mix at the deadline so that might have to happen early. Aggressive ask!


Thank you!

I didn't really know who to ship del Zotto to buts let's just pretend it's to a team that's needs a LHD at the deadline.

And palhal I get what ur saying now, del Zotto and new jersey wouldn't be good matches
30 août 2017 à 16 h 51
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Gosh ur comment made me laugh

1) if del Zotto plays well next to Tanev which he will. A 2nd rounder at the deadline is realistic. Del Zotto is young as well

2) Edler for a conditional first is quite a nice deal. Its no secret Pittsburgh left side needs another top 4 guy. If they do win that 1st will basically be a 2nd anyways. PLUS IF TRADED AT THE DEADLINE PITTSBURGH WILL ONLY TAKE HALF HIS SALARY.

3) leafs fans know how good Tanev is and they would love to see Tanev and Reilly togther. Maybe id change the 2nd to conditional. But the first makes sense. Tanevs better than hamonic and Gudbranson and look what they got. PLUS IF TRADED AT THE DEALDINE LEAFS WILL TAKE HALF HIS ALREADY CHEAP SALARY.

4) Sedins would love a contender and since montreal has a Weber and price all they are missing is a top 6 cente and winger. Montreal is closer than u think they are just missing a top 6 centre. IF SEDINS ARE TRADED AT THE DEADLINE MONTREAL WOULD ONLY TAKE ABOUT HALF THEIR SALARY. AND ONE IS ALREADY RETAINED.

If you don't watch hockey enough to know any of these why respond? wink


Glad to know you have to FIB to try win an argument. I had suggested that that Leafs and Pens would not want pay Tanev and Elder in 2019 and 2020. But somehow you have this great argument that in your second comment that the Pens only have to pay half his salary. Cmon we aren't buying her lack of knowledge about players contracts.

I'm a Leaf fan and I know how good Tanev would look in life lineup. He's barely 4.4m good and certainly not giving two top draft picks. The Leafs likely don't have the cap room now and in the future for such a trade. Leaf could certainly find a another Dman cheaper and not have too give up so much. It's Canucks fans that have pushing for a Tanev trade to the Leafs. 95% of Tanev trades are to the Leafs. If Tanev has any trade value, can't he be traded to another team? I guess not.

Philly fans were glad to get rid of delZotto, If the Devils or any team were so glad to have him, he could have been resigned by another team. You'll see Canucks overpaid for a marginal player.
So you suggest that I don't watch any hockey. May I suggest that you get cable or dish and maybe you watch games in the Eastern Conference. You allegiance to own players is laughable and your lack of knowledge of Eastern Conference is kinda futile when making trades to that Conference. And please learn about the rules of contracts, trades and salary cap.
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seems like more vancouver hate for a leaf fan theflash9193, has"canucks contenders " under his name. and he suggested pallhal doesn't watch hockey wake up flash it's 2017
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I'm a Leaf fan and I know how good Tanev would look in life lineup. He's barely 4.4m good and certainly not giving two top draft picks. The Leafs likely don't have the cap room now and in the future for such a trade. Leaf could certainly find a another Dman cheaper and not have too give up so much. It's Canucks fans that have pushing for a Tanev trade to the Leafs. 95% of Tanev trades are to the Leafs. If Tanev has any trade value, can't he be traded to another team? I guess not.


It's really not actually. If you do pay attention in the forums or radio it was possible landing spots for Tanev pre July 1 so people just jump on the bandwagon like using him to go to Dallas. IMO we can get a much better haul from other teams than that of the leafs. And AS A CANUCKS FAN. WHY THE F WOULD WE EVER WANT TO HELP OUT THE LEAFS. Plain and simple no way I trade Tanev to the leafs unless we rob them blind for Nylander, Kapanen and a 1st but thats not happening.
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playercoachreggiedunlop: thanks for replying. Now that teams have basically spent to their cap for the upcoming year, it is difficult to make trades.....just for picks. I'm doubting that Leafs could fit in Tanev this year or even next year without making other moves. Same with the Pens. Best thing for a Tanev trade for the Canucks is that he stay healthy and play well this season. Then maybe his remaining two years is very tradeable.
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DelZotto a second rounder? Especially could be 40th overall....C'mon. I doubt if Pittsburg or even the Leafs want those cap hits of Elder and Tanev in 2019. I'm sure the Sedins would only want to go a contender, and it's not the Habs.



Gosh ur comment made me laugh

1) if del Zotto plays well next to Tanev which he will. A 2nd rounder at the deadline is realistic. Del Zotto is young as well

2) Edler for a conditional first is quite a nice deal. Its no secret Pittsburgh left side needs another top 4 guy. If they do win that 1st will basically be a 2nd anyways. PLUS IF TRADED AT THE DEADLINE PITTSBURGH WILL ONLY TAKE HALF HIS SALARY.

3) leafs fans know how good Tanev is and they would love to see Tanev and Reilly togther. Maybe id change the 2nd to conditional. But the first makes sense. Tanevs better than hamonic and Gudbranson and look what they got. PLUS IF TRADED AT THE DEALDINE LEAFS WILL TAKE HALF HIS ALREADY CHEAP SALARY.

4) Sedins would love a contender and since montreal has a Weber and price all they are missing is a top 6 cente and winger. Montreal is closer than u think they are just missing a top 6 centre. IF SEDINS ARE TRADED AT THE DEADLINE MONTREAL WOULD ONLY TAKE ABOUT HALF THEIR SALARY. AND ONE IS ALREADY RETAINED.

If you don't watch hockey enough to know any of these why respond? wink


Del Zotto hasnt played a full season since 2011. There is no reason to think he will believe on a roster that atrocious. He would be worth a mid round pick at the most as he is nothing but a depth guy for a contending team. (NJD aren't contending, why would they want a prime defender who is a bad influence in the dressing room on their young core)

Edler isn't the same player he used to be, and its not even close. Again on a contending team he is worth nothing more than a mid round pick as he would be a #4 guy at best and he has a contract that is far to big for what you get out of him. The pens aren't worried about the amount they actually pay him (2.5m at the deadline) they're worried about the Cap Hit which is $5m unconditionally.

I don't know many leafs fans who want Tanev, because on a cup contender he's a good #3 or 4 guy (maybe a #2) but he's not the #1 D the leafs need. With his cap hit they will also be compromising 2 or 3 of Bozak, JVR, and Gardiner which is far too much for a player of Tanevs quality. Not to mention he hasn't played a full season ever. The Leafs have a young D-core and unless they can bring in a young #1D which Is extremely unlikely, I expect them to stick with what they have. Rielly Gardiner and Zaitsev are all top 4 D, Carrick, Neilsen, Dermott and Liljegren all have the potential to develop into to 4 D, and then they have Rosen, Borgman and Marincin for depth if needed. The leafs are in no rush to win a cup, they have Marner, Nylander and Matthews locked up for a minimum of 5 seasons, why go all out right now and compromise the squad depth, or the potential to resign all of them? Illogical.

The sedins aren't the players they used to be, and that package isn't nearly enough to take on 10+million in cap hit. Unless Montreal goes all in for this season they would be better off with the 2 prospects.
 
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