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Créé par: Ennis
Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2024
Publié: 20 juin 2024
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started this before guttman took league min
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    Honestly, why not? It's not like Chicago will have any cap troubles any time soon. Acquiring a star like Guentzel can fill more seats and allows Bedard to grow his game and not have to play another season with Nick Foligno
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    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
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    20 juin à 15 h 14
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    Because we need a right wing (Necas) and he fits the window better than Guentzel.
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    20 juin à 15 h 17
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    Quoting: CFMan
    Because we need a right wing (Necas) and he fits the window better than Guentzel.


    If you don't target Necas, it keeps the RW clear for Nazar. Necas already complains about not having top line minutes.
    20 juin à 15 h 21
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    Quoting: CFMan
    Because we need a right wing (Necas) and he fits the window better than Guentzel.


    I agree… Hall is serviceable 1LW and Necas fits the top-line role long term better.
    20 juin à 15 h 27
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    Quoting: Ennis
    If you don't target Necas, it keeps the RW clear for Nazar. Necas already complains about not having top line minutes.


    All true, but our right side is so weak. Kurashev, hall, and riechel make up the top 9 LW, no point in trying to load that up when our top RW currently is AA. Sprong is more of the same on the right side.
    20 juin à 15 h 31
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    By my extensive research (ie quick google search) Hawks were top 5 for n attendance last year , so that’s not really a factor. Seems like a loony tunes signing for a 29 year old that isn’t a stranger to being bit by the injury bug. Just because Hawks have cap space doesn’t mean they should spend it like the world is ending. He is very good but he is not a franchise player good.
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    20 juin à 15 h 33
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    7 years $10m+ for Guentzel?? Nooooo thank you.

    Nobody is going to games just to watch Guentzel either. He isn't a big name like that.
    20 juin à 15 h 42
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    Quoting: YeahRighttt
    By my extensive research (ie quick google search) Hawks were top 5 for n attendance last year , so that’s not really a factor. Seems like a loony tunes signing for a 29 year old that isn’t a stranger to being bit by the injury bug. Just because Hawks have cap space doesn’t mean they should spend it like the world is ending. He is very good but he is not a franchise player good.


    Quoting: PaulKorea
    7 years $10m+ for Guentzel?? Nooooo thank you.

    Nobody is going to games just to watch Guentzel either. He isn't a big name like that.


    I wouldn't be concerned about his injuries. He seems to be fine. I'm trying to justify bringing in names for Bedard so he doesn't spend another season playing with 4th liners.

    Gunetzel alone won't sell seats, but people sure as hell will come to watch him score multiple point nights every game playing with Bedard.

    I don't know why Chicago fans are very touchy and nitpicky with free agency signings. He's 29, yeah, he's older, but by the time his contract even remotely becomes a problem the cap would have gone up to where he's not really taking up much of the cap anyway. While still being a very good player.

    It's not "looney tunes" considering Chicago was thinking about it. It's just fans on CF being nitpicky
    20 juin à 15 h 43
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    Quoting: CFMan
    All true, but our right side is so weak. Kurashev, hall, and riechel make up the top 9 LW, no point in trying to load that up when our top RW currently is AA. Sprong is more of the same on the right side.


    I like Sprong in the top 6 because he's a very efficient 5v5 producer. He's not good in his own end, but does Chicago care about that right now? I'm just trying to give Bedard some linemates.
    20 juin à 16 h 9
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    So you are one of those guys that get offended when your option is not accepted as a fact huh? Sorry, that my honest opinion doesn’t line up with your opinion. You can label me a nitpicker all you want but I’m going to call people on their proposal 100% of the time when I think they are unrealistic. That’s the whole point of having a feedback section of this feature, to give feedback.
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    20 juin à 16 h 9
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    Quoting: Ennis
    I wouldn't be concerned about his injuries. He seems to be fine. I'm trying to justify bringing in names for Bedard so he doesn't spend another season playing with 4th liners.

    Gunetzel alone won't sell seats, but people sure as hell will come to watch him score multiple point nights every game playing with Bedard.

    I don't know why Chicago fans are very touchy and nitpicky with free agency signings. He's 29, yeah, he's older, but by the time his contract even remotely becomes a problem the cap would have gone up to where he's not really taking up much of the cap anyway. While still being a very good player.

    It's not "looney tunes" considering Chicago was thinking about it. It's just fans on CF being nitpicky


    Guess I didn’t tag you, see above.
    20 juin à 16 h 22
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    So you are one of those guys that get offended when your option is not accepted as a fact huh? Sorry, that my honest opinion doesn’t line up with your opinion. You can label me a nitpicker all you want but I’m going to call people on their proposal 100% of the time when I think they are unrealistic. That’s the whole point of having a feedback section of this feature, to give feedback.


    ? Not offended lol. Just a trend that seems to be very common amongst Chicago fans.

    It's unrealistic? It was reported that Chicago was interested in acquiring Gunetzel. I made this BECAUSE of that fact.

    If you think it's unrealistic, call front office and make a complaint.
    20 juin à 16 h 26
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    I wouldn't be concerned about his injuries. He seems to be fine. I'm trying to justify bringing in names for Bedard so he doesn't spend another season playing with 4th liners.

    Gunetzel alone won't sell seats, but people sure as hell will come to watch him score multiple point nights every game playing with Bedard.

    I don't know why Chicago fans are very touchy and nitpicky with free agency signings. He's 29, yeah, he's older, but by the time his contract even remotely becomes a problem the cap would have gone up to where he's not really taking up much of the cap anyway. While still being a very good player.

    It's not "looney tunes" considering Chicago was thinking about it. It's just fans on CF being nitpicky


    Even if the cap is ~$100m in 5 years, Chicago would still be paying a 35 year old $10m+. Not wanting to throw away cap space on a 35+ player has nothing to do with being touchy or nitpicky.
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    Quoting: PaulKorea
    Even if the cap is ~$100m in 5 years, Chicago would still be paying a 35 year old $10m+. Not wanting to throw away cap space on a 35+ player has nothing to do with being touchy or nitpicky.


    If it's a star over ppg winger it shouldn't be a problem. Or, just let Bedard play out the season with Nick Foligno when Hall gets injured again!

    It is literally just being nitpicky lol
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    Even if the cap is ~$100m in 5 years, Chicago would still be paying a 35 year old $10m+. Not wanting to throw away cap space on a 35+ player has nothing to do with being touchy or nitpicky.


    If the cap goes close to 100m Guentzel will be about 10% of your total cap. Seems more like a good thing than a bad thing.
    20 juin à 16 h 54
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    If the cap goes close to 100m Guentzel will be about 10% of your total cap. Seems more like a good thing than a bad thing.

    You're assuming two things:

    1. You're assuming other contracts aren't going to go up as the cap goes up. Players know the cap is going up so they're going to ask for more money.Guentzel's deal puts a bit of a squeeze on what you can do with the rest of your available space.

    2. You're assuming Guentzel keeps his play through the entire contract. Everyone drops off someday. Time is undefeated my dude. If he drops off in 3 years, that contract gets ugly in a hurry. I don't care what the salary cap is at that point. Every cent you're paying for an underperforming player that's past his prime is money you could be using to improve your roster somewhere else.
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    Quoting: PaulKorea
    You're assuming two things:

    1. You're assuming other contracts aren't going to go up as the cap goes up. Players know the cap is going up so they're going to ask for more money.Guentzel's deal puts a bit of a squeeze on what you can do with the rest of your available space.

    2. You're assuming Guentzel keeps his play through the entire contract. Everyone drops off someday. Time is undefeated my dude. If he drops off in 3 years, that contract gets ugly in a hurry. I don't care what the salary cap is at that point. Every cent you're paying for an underperforming player that's past his prime is money you could be using to improve your roster somewhere else.


    Yeah, contracts go up, but paying Guentzel around 10m isn't a big deal and won't be for a while. You need to give to get.

    All this reads to me is Chicago fans would rather keep Bedard playing with 3rd and 4th liners instead of actually giving him good players. Time is undefeated, everyone knows that., it's still really just not that big of a deal. Most GM's cross those birdges when they get to them and if you don't have to worry about it for what, 4-ish+ years, who cares?

    Give the kid some star linemates, man.
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    Quoting: Ennis
    ? Not offended lol. Just a trend that seems to be very common amongst Chicago fans.

    It's unrealistic? It was reported that Chicago was interested in acquiring Gunetzel. I made this BECAUSE of that fact.

    If you think it's unrealistic, call front office and make a complaint.


    Well you certainly came off as offended & typing LOL doesn’t change that.
    Never said it was the unrealistic because the Hawks wouldn’t have any interest in him. It’s unrealistic because you are proposing way too much $ for him.
    Hawks fans are very dialed into what the team is doing & what the real world GM is saying. Other fans make proposals based on a trade that doesn’t make sense to the Hawks they are going to get called on it every time.
    Give me the # for the front office & I’ll get them on the horn.
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