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Is the cap dump era officially over

Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2024
Publié: 20 juin 2024
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Can we say the cap dump era is officially over or at least ramping down? PLD traded heads up... 4 years of PLD's 8.5M on the backside of the trade with zero compensation for taking it on.

Philly and Calgary must be sooo jealous.
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  1. Couturier, Sean
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Equivalent to the PLD trade?
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MTL
  1. Huberdeau, Jonathan
Détails additionnels:
Equivalent to the PLD trade?
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20 juin à 6 h 8
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that is way too much risk for the canadiens to take on, they are better off letting Gallagher and Andersons contract expire and compete within 3 years when their window will probably open anyway.
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that is way too much risk for the canadiens to take on, they are better off letting Gallagher and Andersons contract expire and compete within 3 years when their window will probably open anyway.


100% it was more illustration of the description.
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100% it was more illustration of the description.


wouldn't say either of those are equivalent due to the fact that PLD is yet to enter his prime and is one year removed of having a pretty solid season, PLD is 25 with no recent injuries Couturier is coming back from a huge injury and Jonathan cost way too much and is like 31 now.
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cap dump era definitely isn’t over. LA just has continually terrible asset management and Washington is desperate enough to get Ovi the goal record to take the high risk on PLD’s 1C upside
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cap dump era definitely isn’t over. LA just has continually terrible asset management and Washington is desperate enough to get Ovi the goal record to take the high risk on PLD’s 1C upside


Are you sure? Sharks just picked up Goodrow for nothing. I think we're seeing teams signalling they aren't charging for cap space.
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wouldn't say either of those are equivalent due to the fact that PLD is yet to enter his prime and is one year removed of having a pretty solid season, PLD is 25 with no recent injuries Couturier is coming back from a huge injury and Jonathan cost way too much and is like 31 now.


Fair points...
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Are you sure? Sharks just picked up Goodrow for nothing. I think we're seeing teams signalling they aren't charging for cap space.


I would put every move Mike Grier has made in a handbook about how NOT to handle an NHL franchise
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Could be an indication that from the discussions teams and agents have had, the UFA market is about to be UGLY in terms of prices
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I would put every move Mike Grier has made in a handbook about how NOT to handle an NHL franchise


elaborate
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I think people on this website and GMS views contracts in different ways, like we see a bad contract, and instantly on this site we start to trade it with like 3 firsts attached to it. GMs for the most part, are just simply not willing to do that.

On the other hand, some general managers are willing to take a shot at someone:
- PLD - obviously has some upside, clearly didn't fit in LA, there are 32 teams in this league, 1 is bound to want to take a shot at him who is desperately trying to make their team competitive again (WSH)
- Goodrow - SJS is going to have a really hard time signing UFAs as we are clearly in the midst of arguably our biggest rebuild in franchise history. We are in desperate need of Veteran presence with Couture likely done, and all of our other veterans being traded away. Goodrow is obviously not an elite player, but he will be OK as our 3c for a couple years while we tear down and build back up.
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Could be an indication that from the discussions teams and agents have had, the UFA market is about to be UGLY in terms of prices


exactly
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exactly


Especially for a team like San Jose, and some of the other less attractive destinations.
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I would put every move Mike Grier has made in a handbook about how NOT to handle an NHL franchise


Like drafting Smith & Celebrini?
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elaborate


Hot take: Will Smith & Macklin Celebrini are gonna be terrible. You should have drafted Reinbacher & Demidov. Habs can help you there if you'd like!

We'll swap with you cause we're such nice guys!
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Hot take: Will Smith & Macklin Celebrini are gonna be terrible. You should have drafted Reinbacher & Demidov. Habs can help you there if you'd like!

We'll swap with you cause we're such nice guys!


Hahahaha, while we are at it, I think musty is a bust, we’ll swap him for Anderson who will bounce back!
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Like drafting Smith & Celebrini?


Thank you!
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elaborate


Mike Grier is a very bad GM, and almost everything he has done was the wrong move for the franchise
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Mike Grier is a very bad GM, and almost everything he has done was the wrong move for the franchise


Elaborate
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Elaborate


I would put almost every move he’s made in a book on how to not rebuild an NHL team.
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I would put almost every move he’s made in a book on how to not rebuild an NHL team.


bro is chat gpt lmao
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bro is chat gpt lmao


I probably wouldn't trade my team's top 2 forwards (Suzuki & Slafkovsky) for Celebrini & Smith, not because the latter aren't more talented, but because of the development timeline. But it would be a close thing, and I'd probably end up looking stupid 5 years from now for not doing it!
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I probably wouldn't trade my team's top 2 forwards (Suzuki & Slafkovsky) for Celebrini & Smith, not because the latter aren't more talented, but because of the development timeline. But it would be a close thing, and I'd probably end up looking stupid 5 years from now for not doing it!


fair enough! I would be inclined to disagree, but I understand the development side of things. Slaf should be an amazing player

I am honestly happy with what grier did, he gave this team a more clear direction, even though this last season was a nose dive, I feel like it had to be
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Cap dump era clearly isn’t over
 
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