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On the really off-chance Draisaitl gets moved

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Équipe: 2024-25 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2024
Publié: 14 juin 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Kane Over 35 Performance Bonus: .5 million for 20 points, 1 million for 35 points, 1.5 million for 45 points
Would rather have other guys than Kane but he is probably cheaper and has more contract maneuverability

This mock creates a top tier-offensive top 6 with two excellent scoring lines, adds a Top 4 D man who can eat minutes and add some serious physicality in the playoffs, and builds a tough bottom six with some offensive skill.
I'd allow Greer, Brazeau, Lauko to compete essentially for the same job, but I think Greer's physicality would be important to keep up, Brazeau for offensive potential (despite lack of physicality).
Big loss is obviously in goal. Swayman carried the Bruins in the playoffs, and Ullmark has had a generally rough time in the postseason. But I think this team is a far better contender than one that keeps Swayman and doesn't make as significant an addition up front.

With limited assets, address needs at deadline (hopefully with this roster some players would force their way here for pennies on the dollar, a la Tarasenko to Florida). Address backup goaltending if Bussi is not capable, add a third-pair power play quarterback if Lohrei cannot step into the role, add a third line winger who can score around the 20 goal mark, especially if Poitras does not take the next step. Not big upgrades but tweaks with limited capital to move.
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  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Swayman, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
  3. Zacha, Pavel
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Losing Swayman really sucks, but if you can acquire and lock up probably the fifth best player in the league in Draisaitl, it's worth it.
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14 juin à 22 h 30
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You’d assume Ullmark would be extending as part of this as well
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I really wouldn't want to do that if I'm being honest. We're losing probably a top 3 young goaltender, a top 6 forward and our top prospect- I know how good Draisaitl is but we just don't have the depth to be able to do that. I'd much rather target someone like Lindholm to fill the 1C and then get someone like Chychyrun for Ullmark to have a more well-balanced team that would have a better chance of winning. If Draisaitl can't get it done on a loaded Oilers team he's certainly not putting this team over the top.
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Draisaitl is so overrated it's not even funny, the guy can literally hardly skate
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hard pass. hes elite yes but hes def not worth throwing ur future away into a win now forced mode. If edm wanted a 1st or 2 and lysell + someone like geeke and fredy then sure u go for it but if they want a top 6 our young talent, prospects, picks and a top 3 goalie in the NHL whos only 25 u just dont do it even if its "equal" value. just not worth would rather see them keep growing as a team with the young kids and add in FA and see what happens
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Quoting: Jets12Kozy
Draisaitl is so overrated it's not even funny, the guy can literally hardly skate


That may be a hot take
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That may be a hot take


Yeah seems to be lol Don't get me wrong he can shoot with the best of them but he is a glorified Phil Kessel
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Quoting: Jets12Kozy
Draisaitl is so overrated it's not even funny, the guy can literally hardly skate


He’s not a fast skater but he can skate decently
V123 a aimé ceci.
14 juin à 23 h 58
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He’s not a fast skater but he can skate decently

NHL Edge data suggests otherwise.
https://edge.nhl.com/en/skater/20232024-regular-8477934
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He’s not a fast skater but he can skate decently


I think it's the other way around tbh, he can get his speed up with a 200ft rush, but he's a terrible fundamental skater, looks like his skates are cinder blocks, 0 acceleration from stand still, trips over his feet, no stop and go ability
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I really wouldn't want to do that if I'm being honest. We're losing probably a top 3 young goaltender, a top 6 forward and our top prospect- I know how good Draisaitl is but we just don't have the depth to be able to do that. I'd much rather target someone like Lindholm to fill the 1C and then get someone like Chychyrun for Ullmark to have a more well-balanced team that would have a better chance of winning. If Draisaitl can't get it done on a loaded Oilers team he's certainly not putting this team over the top.


I would absolutely love to pay less than that price for Draisaitl if he were traded, I was trying to be fair on pricing but if he'd go for less that'd be great. Elias Lindholm really doesn't do it for me. He's a second line center not much better than a Charlie Coyle (he'll win more face-offs and that's about it). I feel like the ACGM I made as a whole is far deeper than last year's Bruins. Draisaitl is twice the player Zacha or Lysell will ever be, and this trade leaves enough cap room to add a lot of depth (see Zadorov and Kane additions).
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Quoting: colby
hard pass. hes elite yes but hes def not worth throwing ur future away into a win now forced mode. If edm wanted a 1st or 2 and lysell + someone like geeke and fredy then sure u go for it but if they want a top 6 our young talent, prospects, picks and a top 3 goalie in the NHL whos only 25 u just dont do it even if its "equal" value. just not worth would rather see them keep growing as a team with the young kids and add in FA and see what happens


I understand your perspective, but I feel like adding Draisaitl for the next 9 years and building around makes this a win now and later move rather than just throwing away the future to win now. Swayman is the big loss here, and if you can somehow convince them to take Ullmark+Frederic+another 2nd in his place, the cap works out and you have an incredible team for the next 10 years. I also personally believe its time to move on from Zacha--based on his production he will have strong trade value but his playoff lack of scoring has been shown over a large enough sample size in my opinion that I am happy moving him for a better asset. I just don't see another time in the next 10 years where the bruins can acquire a top 6 player in the league (McDavid, MacKinnon, Maker, Tkachuk, Kucherov being the only ones ahead), and you can find a replacement for a Lysell or Zacha in FA.
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You’d assume Ullmark would be extending as part of this as well


Yah in this situation I'd try to extend him 4-5 years for between 6 and 7 million. Curious, as a neutral fan in this case, what do you think about the fairness of the trade here? And what would would you think about a trade more like: Zacha, Ullmark w/ extension in Edmonton, Lysell, Frederic, 1st, 2 2nds?
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I understand your perspective, but I feel like adding Draisaitl for the next 9 years and building around makes this a win now and later move rather than just throwing away the future to win now. Swayman is the big loss here, and if you can somehow convince them to take Ullmark+Frederic+another 2nd in his place, the cap works out and you have an incredible team for the next 10 years. I also personally believe its time to move on from Zacha--based on his production he will have strong trade value but his playoff lack of scoring has been shown over a large enough sample size in my opinion that I am happy moving him for a better asset. I just don't see another time in the next 10 years where the bruins can acquire a top 6 player in the league (McDavid, MacKinnon, Maker, Tkachuk, Kucherov being the only ones ahead), and you can find a replacement for a Lysell or Zacha in FA.

u can find replacements for lysell or zacha but its not worth to trade sway when u could keep him, trade ullmark for a decent package (either top 6 fwd/top4D and a pick) and let pots lohrei and fredy grow into players while resigning coyle and marsh to team deals (coyle grew up a boston fan and 100000% would do that to stay) they have pasta, lindholm and McAvoy long term so there "win" window isnt for another few years. pots and lohrei look to have elite potential and while drai is great if im boston im not sniffing near him unless its lysell + zacha + ullmark + a first. if its maybe a draft pick or 2 sure u can add them in but trading sway and a young kid and picks is just too much. if im boston im only moving fredy if its a good deal, lohrei and pots are off limits unless its for Connor and sway ur not moving for anyone unless its a 1-1 for connor or Drai. Adding drai doesnt put this team over the edge esp if ur lossing sway who was the only reason they beat Tor and had even a semi close against Fla.
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Quoting: colby
u can find replacements for lysell or zacha but its not worth to trade sway when u could keep him, trade ullmark for a decent package (either top 6 fwd/top4D and a pick) and let pots lohrei and fredy grow into players while resigning coyle and marsh to team deals (coyle grew up a boston fan and 100000% would do that to stay) they have pasta, lindholm and McAvoy long term so there "win" window isnt for another few years. pots and lohrei look to have elite potential and while drai is great if im boston im not sniffing near him unless its lysell + zacha + ullmark + a first. if its maybe a draft pick or 2 sure u can add them in but trading sway and a young kid and picks is just too much. if im boston im only moving fredy if its a good deal, lohrei and pots are off limits unless its for Connor and sway ur not moving for anyone unless its a 1-1 for connor or Drai. Adding drai doesnt put this team over the edge esp if ur lossing sway who was the only reason they beat Tor and had even a semi close against Fla.


I understand what you mean. I disagree a bit on the value of some of our players, as well as the impact of Draisaitl on the team and especially on Pasta, but I do see where you are coming from. Would ideally do this without Swayman involved obviously. Feel like Ullmark, Zacha, Lysell, Frederic (I like him a lot but think he would need to go if you are trying to not include Swayman, Poitras or Lohrei), a 1st and 2nd would be ideal with a lot of value going to Edmonton while maintaining a lot of our young corps. Anyway, it's likely a moot point. Either way, go Bruins!!!
 
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