Yeah Ostlund or Kulich from Buffalo will be the ask but u still need to get a 1st round pick to go along with them.

The TK ask should be a top prospect and a 1st. Depending on how early or late the 1st is or what year it is in depends on how good the prospect is.

If you can’t get 2 good pieces for TK you have to re-sign him. You can’t just give him away. Fiala, DeBrincat, etc all good multiple strong pieces and TK has probably been just as good as those guys.

He's also older than they were when they were traded and plays a brand of hockey that doesn't age well

Danny please stop posting you need to focus how Michkov is getting on the submarine to voorhees

Read my descriptions you’ll see my solution to the “style of hockey” argument

the top 6 wing rental market has always been weaker than people seem to think it will be. Ostlund or similar for Konecny is a great deal for both sides. 11 for Konecny is also a great deal for both sides.

Or.. 1st in 25, one of Buffalo's secondary prospects. (ranked 4-8 via Athletic)

Sam Reinhart, Alex Debrincat, Pavel Buchnevich.. rental RFAs who received varied returns from a late 1st or 2nd and a B prospect or player.. Debrincat got the top 10 1st from Ottawa, but the 2nd and 3rd and some of the 1sts value equate to the other two trades.

Timo Meier got a late 1st, middle 6 forward, top 3rd ranked prospect for a wad of guys.

So a one year UFA? If 11OA is involved, expect a middling prospect from Buffalo, if anything. All these guys above aren't injury prone either.

Well, I would think about it. Although I think Adams will not make such deals, he will search a term.

What is cost Cates or Hathaway?

Cates is worth a good prospect, maybe even a high first.

Hathaway we give you for a 24-pack molson light and some skittles

The 4 dollars a pound comment reminded me of Tony soprano talking to the fish before they had to whack big *****.

I wouldn't mind Hathaway, not sure if it would be a problem in the room. Hathaway tuned up cozens pretty good in an ill advised fight, and I think it really derailed cozens season. I can see a "boys will be boys, no hard feelings" thing, but I think adams would wanna make sure that there was no hard feelings.

You must’ve been in the top of your f***in class

If he changes his style of play he will be less effective/valuable. A blessing and a curse

I don’t disagree with either of you but imo 7OA (which ADB got) is much better than 11OA and ADB wanted out and had a terrible year and needed a new contract. My ideal offer for TK from Buffalo would be 2024 1st and solid (not top 3 prospect), 2026 1st and Ostlund, Kulich and a 2nd in 2024 or 2025.

There needs to be a big piece but there also needs to be a secondary piece to the deal. There is with every big player trade

Like I said, I think you could probably get away with 11. In a draft where the 7th pick (this year) and the 11th pick are probably equal talents. I think you could get a secondary piece, but I don't think it's anything you'd like, at least off the hop. 2nd in 25 or 6? B prospect? Maybe a 3rd in 24.

That’s fine we can agree to disagree I think with an extension ur getting a top piece and another 2nd and decent prospect

Extension? Sure, I think you could grab another decent piece.