I don't think that Liljegren is the top-4 RhD that Pat Verbeek is looking for. Jankrok would be a 2nd line centre on Utah considering there lineup. He’s a shutdown centre. He can also definitely chip in offensively too and he’s on a really good contract. Plus Utah has a ton of draft picks so 1 second rounder for a player that is a ready to play now player is nothing to them.

Timmons was previously drafted 32 overall. He’s a right handed d man which is a commodity in the nhl. He had 10 points in 25 gop this year and his contact is really good. Only makes 1.1. He can most definitely get a 3rd rounder.

I’m not sure why a lot of people downplay a lot of these players. There value is more than people think.

I can see someone giving you a third for Jarnkrok, but not a second, and I can see someone giving you a sixth for Timmins, but not a fifth.

Liljegren is a first round draft pick. He’s a good d man who shoots right which is a commodity in the NHL. He’s also on a good contact 2.1 for 3 more years.

You need to learn how to read. I re signed liljegren to a 3 year 2.1 contract.

Järnkrok is a Swiss Army knife that is on a good contract also at 2.1 and will be a second liner on Utah. Also penalty kills effectively and will get you 40 points a season.

Liljegren would fit perfectly with a young d core Anaheim is trying to build at a good deal with term. What exactly are you talking about? If anaheims Gm wants to go after a bigger fish it’s going to cost much more than 1 second rounder and it’s going to be much more costly

You need to learn how to read.

I re signed liljegren to a 3 year 2.1 contract.

I’m sorry but you really should listen to the opinion of a fan on his own team. NYI is right. The Ducks need a big, defensive minded top 4 RHD to pair with one of their 2 sophomore season, mobile LHDs in Mintyukov or Zellweger. Think a Matt Roy, Brett Pesce type player. Heck if we could just clone Gudas that’d be perfect. 6’0 190lb Lilj is a really poor fit.

Nobody is saying he’s a trash player. We’re saying that he doesn’t fit the needs ANA has other than that he’s a right hand dman. He won’t be a Duck, youll need to fish for that 2nd elsewhere

You need to learn how to be courteous.


Yes, you're right, I missed that because knowing that Liljegren is an expiring RFA, it never occurred to me that you would think that a GM would sign a kid before the draft and then trade him at the draft. I'd be interested to see you produce even one instance of that happening, inasmuch as I don't recall it occurring in the 50 years that I've been a hockey fan because it seems so outstandingly devious.

Liljegren is definitely worth a 2nd, whether it’s Anaheims 2nd or he goes to another team for a 2nd he’s worth that much. His contract is really good and on bottom 10 teams he’s easily a 2nd pairing guy

That’s so awesome for whoever wants him. ANA will watch that from the sidelines

Might have to kick themselves in the butt if he thrives on another team in a bigger role too

The point that has been made consistently seems to be flying so many miles over your head. I wish him and that team the best of luck.

That said, if he’s such a stud for only $2.1M, Toronto should really be keeping him eh bud? Weird how 9/10 ACGMs out of Toronto want him gone 🤔

Your points aren’t flying over anyone’s head bud they are just not correct.

Nobody is saying he’s going to completely change your Defence around but for 2.1 mill in a 3 year deal he can play solid defence. Plus right shot d men are premium in the nhl. That’s what’s flying over your head. He doesn’t fit the style of defencemen the leafs want or need. Doesn’t mean he isn’t good. You’re delusional kid

Oh. My. Word. Wait. I think my point might actually land for you.

Your reason why Leafs fans overwhelmingly want to get rid of Lilj:
“He doesn’t fit the style of defensemen the leafs want or need. Doesn’t mean he isn’t good”

The literal first point I made to try to explain why he isn’t a target for ANA:
“Nobody is saying he’s a trash player. We’re saying that he doesn’t fit the needs ANA has”

There may be an element of delusion here, but it sure doesn’t seem to be on my part. I explained why he wouldn’t be an add for Anaheim, you argued against that reason. And then effectively copy/pasted that reason for why the leafs should trade him 🤔❓

I’ve gotten what your point is the entire time. Liljegren would go to the ducks and instantly be the 2nd best defensive defencemen. He’s also still only 25 so has time to develop with the young core group Anaheim has.

I didn’t copy and paste squat. The playing style Anaheim is as compared to the leafs are completely different lmao. Toronto is in a “win now” mode and Anaheim is in a rebuild. The leafs just got a new GM and a new head coach within the last 400 days and they both like big d men who can skate and play physical. Liljegren doesn’t fit that build.