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A weird Ottawa trade

Créé par: dgibb10
Équipe: 2024-25 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2024
Publié: 28 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
33 300 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Marino, John
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Based on puckpedia this values Marino = to the 17th overall pick.
2.
NJD
  1. van Riemsdyk, Trevor
Détails additionnels:
local boy comes home
WSH
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
3.
BOS
  1. Daws, Nico [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
4.
NJD
  1. Kämpf, David (600 000 $ retained)
TOR
    FC
    5.
    NJD
    1. McNabb, Brayden
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (VGK)
    VGK
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
    Frais appliqués
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2024
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de COL
    Logo de NJD
    2025
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de VGK
    Logo de NJD
    2026
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de DAL
    Logo de WPG
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2387 700 000 $86 226 397 $1 538 897 $5 950 000 $1 473 603 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Bruins de Boston
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
    DG/DD, AG
    UFA - 3

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    28 mai à 12 h 56
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    you can keep daws.
    28 mai à 12 h 59
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    you can keep daws.


    He is a waiver exempt 3rd goalie option that you don't need to worry about potentially getting claimed any time a goalie gets hurt
    28 mai à 13 h 0
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    He is a waiver exempt 3rd goalie option that you don't need to worry about potentially getting claimed any time a goalie gets hurt


    theyve got dipietro for that. you can keep him.
    28 mai à 13 h 0
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    Ottawa has a chance to get a ln actual top pairing RHD with #7, don't think they trade that away for a second pairing RHD
    28 mai à 13 h 2
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    theyve got dipietro for that. you can keep him.


    DiPietro is not waivers exempt and has 0 NHL experience.
    28 mai à 13 h 8
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    DiPietro is not waivers exempt and has 0 NHL experience.


    that's fine. don't really want daws.
    28 mai à 13 h 8
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    McNabb is so valuable to Vegas, they don't pick up the phone unless it's an exceptional package
    28 mai à 13 h 11
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    If Marino is available this summer Ottawa should be heavily interested imo, but not in this type of deal. Just way more upside being able to draft Dickinson/Silayev/Parekh
    28 mai à 13 h 11
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    Quoting: AdamOzmutlu
    McNabb is so valuable to Vegas, they don't pick up the phone unless it's an exceptional package


    I love calling people up and offering them an exceptional package
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    28 mai à 13 h 35
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    If Marino is available this summer Ottawa should be heavily interested imo, but not in this type of deal. Just way more upside being able to draft Dickinson/Silayev/Parekh


    I think this would only make sense for NJD if Dickinson was available at 7, and only make sense for Ottawa if Parekh/Buium/Iginla were also still all on the board with 1 guaranteed to fall to 10
    28 mai à 13 h 39
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    that's fine. don't really want daws.


    No idea why you’re so opposed to a waiver exempt goalie with actual NHL experience.

    Scenarios where Daws is an asset to Boston:

    -Swayman gets hurt
    -Bussi gets hurt
    -Swayman struggles with his larger workload
    -your 2 goalies with 0 NHL experience don’t adapt to the NHL level

    What happens if Dipietro comes up, does well, and then gets claimed on the way back down after you get healthy? Now what’s your insurance plan?

    Having waiver exempt goalies who can play at the NHL level is never a bad thing
    28 mai à 13 h 41
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    I think this would only make sense for NJD if Dickinson was available at 7, and only make sense for Ottawa if Parekh/Buium/Iginla were also still all on the board with 1 guaranteed to fall to 10


    Ottawa still better off just taking their guy imo. Why gamble? It's not like this is the only possible way to structure a Marino trade.
    28 mai à 13 h 50
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    where on puckpedia to you find the info the determine Marino is worth roughly the 17th overall pick?
    28 mai à 13 h 52
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    Quoting: holtzer
    where on puckpedia to you find the info the determine Marino is worth roughly the 17th overall pick?


    Pick 10 value

    Vs
    Pick 7
    Pick 25

    Then find what pick = the difference.

    So in this trade, I am valuing Marino equivalent to the 17th overall pick, because that is the gap in value
    28 mai à 13 h 53
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Ottawa still better off just taking their guy imo. Why gamble? It's not like this is the only possible way to structure a Marino trade.


    What other way would you structure it?

    Not sure what Ottawa could/would add to the 2024 1st that they’d be willing to give up, that would make NJD move on from Marino a year early. (And very likely means Ottawa won’t be able to acquire him if they wait)
    28 mai à 13 h 56
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    No idea why you’re so opposed to a waiver exempt goalie with actual NHL experience.

    Scenarios where Daws is an asset to Boston:

    -Swayman gets hurt
    -Bussi gets hurt
    -Swayman struggles with his larger workload
    -your 2 goalies with 0 NHL experience don’t adapt to the NHL level

    What happens if Dipietro comes up, does well, and then gets claimed on the way back down after you get healthy? Now what’s your insurance plan?

    Having waiver exempt goalies who can play at the NHL level is never a bad thing


    just don't want him.
    28 mai à 14 h 3
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    just don't want him.


    Seems like far too much faith in a pair of non waiver exempt goalies who have 3 combined NHL games.

    Again.

    Swayman gets hurt.

    Diepietro plays well.

    Swayman gets healthy.

    DiPietro sent down, claimed because he is NOT waivers exempt.

    Bussi/Swayman get hurt: who is your backup goalie now?
     
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