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Necas

Créé par: Ljf
Équipe: 2024-25 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 18 mai 2024
Publié: 18 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 186
Journées restantes: 185
Saison restante: 99%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 68 876 397 $
Description
Curiosity got the better of me
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 750 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
77 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
VGK
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Saw this suggested on another devils post
2.
MIN
  1. Bastian, Nathan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
3.
NJD
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Similar value to Debrincat --- > Ottawa trade
Frais appliqués
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 700 000 $86 926 397 $1 538 897 $5 950 000 $773 603 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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894 167 $889 360 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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7 250 000 $7 211 022 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 800 000 $8 752 688 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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7 875 000 $7 832 661 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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8 000 000 $7 956 989 $
C
UFA - 6
7 250 000 $7 211 022 $
AD
RFA
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6 000 000 $5 967 742 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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3 150 000 $3 133 065 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 729 839 $
AD, C
RFA
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1 150 000 $1 143 817 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $994 624 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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900 000 $895 161 $
AD, C
RFA
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3 400 000 $3 381 720 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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9 000 000 $8 951 613 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 750 000 $3 729 839 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 850 000 $2 834 677 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
918 333 $913 396 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
DD
RFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 914 651 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $920 027 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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4 400 000 $4 376 344 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 050 000 $1 044 355 $
DG
RFA - 1
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900 000 $895 161 $
G
RFA - 2

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18 mai à 18 h 47
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Why would Necas return anything close to debrincat to Ottawa? Debrincat had paced for 40+ goals and 80+ points a year over the previous 3 years. Necas isn’t close to that
18 mai à 18 h 47
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Carolina are going to be asking for Holtz or Mercer for Necas
18 mai à 18 h 48
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Quoting: dgibb10
Why would Necas return anything close to debrincat to Ottawa? Debrincat had paced for 40+ goals and 80+ points a year over the previous 3 years. Necas isn’t close to that


Necas plays in a system that strangles offense, he offers elite speed and scoring ability regardless of his linemates. He played in the bottom six most of this year and had 55 points anyway, then had 9 in 11 playoff games with Drury and Martinook. Carolina are going to want more than this, simply put
18 mai à 18 h 49
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No thanks on Necas. why are we trading Bast for? you know you can just trade the 10th for the 13th and Gust? dumbies out here. Nice job of making them still soft ASF Clarke is a waste on the 4th line and Devils arent carrying 3 goalie again DUMBIE. Why do we need a 7m FWD? your special teams are TERRIBLE. So we ruining Meier for a 2nd year in a row did you not see Meier after Toff trade? guess you love throwing money away PS Sam Bennett is cheaper and does the same as Necas and more smile again keep wasting money
18 mai à 18 h 53
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18 mai à 18 h 54
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Quoting: dgibb10
Why would Necas return anything close to debrincat to Ottawa? Debrincat had paced for 40+ goals and 80+ points a year over the previous 3 years. Necas isn’t close to that


Umm... did you see his linemates for most of the year... a lot of the time it was Stefan Noesen and Jack Drury not exactly Jack Hughes or Nico Hischier
18 mai à 19 h 7
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No thanks on Necas. why are we trading Bast for? you know you can just trade the 10th for the 13th and Gust? dumbies out here. Nice job of making them still soft ASF Clarke is a waste on the 4th line and Devils arent carrying 3 goalie again DUMBIE. Why do we need a 7m FWD? your special teams are TERRIBLE. So we ruining Meier for a 2nd year in a row did you not see Meier after Toff trade? guess you love throwing money away PS Sam Bennett is cheaper and does the same as Necas and more smile again keep wasting money


Don't exactly get how I'm ruining Meier if I'm keeping him on the right wing with the centerman he was playing like his normal self with towards the end of last season. I also, don't understand how the special teams are terrible, if the powerplay units may very well be the best in hockey if we had both the 1A and 1B like we tried to run at the beginning of the year last season, while the pk is about league average with decent upside banking on a Marino and Segey bounceback years. I can't trade back for Gust if the pick used for him is being used for Necas. Understand your fustration on Bast getting traded, but we did just overpay for Macdermid, so in making this I was kind of forced to get rid of one of the decently paid bottom 6 guys, and felt Bastian could be thrown in a Gustafson deal. Holding 3 goalies not only in case of injury, but mainly due to the fact that it has been reported several times that Schmido might infact want out due to lack of game time after a disappointing season. And finally, if using Clarke makes them a bit more soft, and you are truly losing sleep over it, we have another goon waiting in Utica, named Chase Stillman.
18 mai à 19 h 15
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Don't exactly get how I'm ruining Meier if I'm keeping him on the right wing with the centerman he was playing like his normal self with towards the end of last season. I also, don't understand how the special teams are terrible, if the powerplay units may very well be the best in hockey if we had both the 1A and 1B like we tried to run at the beginning of the year last season, while the pk is about league average with decent upside banking on a Marino and Segey bounceback years. I can't trade back for Gust if the pick used for him is being used for Necas. Understand your fustration on Bast getting traded, but we did just overpay for Macdermid, so in making this I was kind of forced to get rid of one of the decently paid bottom 6 guys, and felt Bastian could be thrown in a Gustafson deal. Holding 3 goalies not only in case of injury, but mainly due to the fact that it has been reported several times that Schmido might infact want out due to lack of game time after a disappointing season. And finally, if using Clarke makes them a bit more soft, and you are truly losing sleep over it, we have another goon waiting in Utica, named Chase Stillman.


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18 mai à 19 h 18
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I’d rather pass on Martin Necas. Fact of the matter is that wingers will always be available as unrestricted free agents. There’s no reason to pay the cost of a trade and then have the player have all the leverage in contract negotiations.

I know this is what the devils did with Timo Meier, but they got to see him in a devils uniform before a contract had to be signed.
18 mai à 19 h 19
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(It’s a Ranger fan trolling as forever disappointed Devils fan…just ignore it)


Thank god lmaoo I couldn't fathom a fellow Devils fan being that dumb
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18 mai à 19 h 21
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I think 10th overall is probably enough. Would be looking at Reinhart trade perhaps as potential comp.
18 mai à 19 h 24
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Umm... did you see his linemates for most of the year... a lot of the time it was Stefan Noesen and Jack Drury not exactly Jack Hughes or Nico Hischier


At 5v5, Necas played with:

Drury ~ 370 minutes
Bunting ~ 336 minutes
Kotkaniemi ~ 326 minutes
Teravainen ~ 208 minutes
Noesen ~ 205 minutes
Kuznetsov ~ 203 minutes
Svechnikov ~ 164 minutes
Aho ~ 115 minutes
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18 mai à 19 h 26
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Quoting: TyeZerker
No thanks on Necas. why are we trading Bast for? you know you can just trade the 10th for the 13th and Gust? dumbies out here. Nice job of making them still soft ASF Clarke is a waste on the 4th line and Devils arent carrying 3 goalie again DUMBIE. Why do we need a 7m FWD? your special teams are TERRIBLE. So we ruining Meier for a 2nd year in a row did you not see Meier after Toff trade? guess you love throwing money away PS Sam Bennett is cheaper and does the same as Necas and more smile again keep wasting money

Minnesota rejects that trade.
18 mai à 19 h 26
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Quoting: seanrushton
Umm... did you see his linemates for most of the year... a lot of the time it was Stefan Noesen and Jack Drury not exactly Jack Hughes or Nico Hischier


I think Necas is a very good player. He just didn't have the production of debrincat, who was scoring at a 45 goal 82 point/82 game pace the previous 2 years. The goalscoring and point production gap cannot be explained by linemates alone

I have him at that star- tier.

Fiala, Trouba, Reinhart, Debrincat (to detroit)
18 mai à 20 h 2
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I think Necas is a very good player. He just didn't have the production of debrincat, who was scoring at a 45 goal 82 point/82 game pace the previous 2 years. The goalscoring and point production gap cannot be explained by linemates alone

I have him at that star- tier.

Fiala, Trouba, Reinhart, Debrincat (to detroit)


Step 1. NJD trade 10 to Vegas for 19/player
Step 2. NJD trade 19 to Calgary for 27/player
Step 3. NJD trade 27/Daws to Carolina for Necas
18 mai à 20 h 17
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Step 1. NJD trade 10 to Vegas for 19/player
Step 2. NJD trade 19 to Calgary for 27/player
Step 3. NJD trade 27/Daws to Carolina for Necas


I think it would be something like a pick in the 20s/2025 1st+Gritysuk, and then it depends what Carolina prefers in terms of prospects/secondary assets from what teams are offering that is what they take.
18 mai à 20 h 21
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I think it would be something like a pick in the 20s/2025 1st+Gritysuk, and then it depends what Carolina prefers in terms of prospects/secondary assets from what teams are offering that is what they take.


I was thinking a series of cascading trades feeling in draft to add assets, then flipping later 1st for Necas. You are thinking three-way deal?
18 mai à 20 h 26
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I was thinking a series of cascading trades feeling in draft to add assets, then flipping later 1st for Necas. You are thinking three-way deal?


Something like that in terms of value.

I think Carolina will have a multitude of suitors offering very similar packages, and it will come down to the prospect/young player that their scouting department prefers
 
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