Go look at what goalies return in trades, then go look at what almost 30 year old goalies with one year of term coming off two meh years get.

Find any good goalies traded without massive cap implications being avoided by their team?

Hard to do when no one ever trades goalies for 95+ point elite defensive wingers

The open issue is you are paying for a 95+ point elite defensive winger who disappears completely in the playoffs

no, the open issue is that you're trying to trade that winger for a goalie who has been mediocre the past 2 seasons and got lit up in the playoffs

Last season. He was one of the best goalies in the league two years ago (guess I have to say that now that most teams years are over)

two seasons ago mitch marner was one of the best all around players in the game, not just forwards, players

Marner is good at prepping you for getting a higher seed. Wish it was more in the playoffs.

except that isnt remotly true either. The past three playoffs he's ppg while playing excellent defensively, and that's with this year where he played on a half healed high ankle sprain. Could he be better? Sure, but he hasn't disappeared, hell, even during his worst post season vs montreal he didnt disappear he just played like **** because he was trying too hard and over thinking everything and forcing plays. At worst Marner has been fine in the playoffs for years, Saros has been out right terrible in 2 of his last 3 post seasons

Ok. Keep Marner and your current roster composition.

yeah, that sounds like a much better idea than getting a return that makes the team worse, will do.

no. not enough at all