Nope. Unretained markstrom simply is not remotely close to fetching a top 10 pick

what is?

The only things of real interest to NJD for that pick would be rasmus andersson. Or zary+

Are you saying Markstrom, Anderson, and the Vancouver 1st-round pick for pick 9?

TB has a player they really want at that point sure why not.

It's more of a way to stagger the picks for Calgary over the years. TB doesn't have early picks in 24, so I thought it might be a convenience trade.

Nee Jersey isn't trading Allen, remove him and add retention to Markstrom. Then the deal is much closer

Calgary would rather take on Allen's last year than retain on Markstrom.

I am saying Andersson 1 for 1 for 10th overall.

Or Zary+Van 1st for 10th+3rd

Obviously but all reports are that New Jersey wants Allen to be their backup next season. Also there is no chance NJD would give us 10th OA with Marky at 6M

Gotta add to #10 for Andersson. Just like #12 wasn't enough for Chychrun

The hope is you are getting a Zary caliber prospect at #10 so no chance Calgary would do that

That's just fine with Calgary, it's better for us if they keep Allen but retention costs extra especially since it's for 2 full years not a prorated cap hit deadline rental. Maybe it'd be ok if it was just 1 mil/yr but you know some jersey fans are going to cry they want Marky at 50% retained for a bag of pucks.

Yes, and the pick is 10th OA...

When the trade discussions were taking place back in late February/early March it was pretty expected that Markstrom would get New Jersey into the playoffs, which would drop that 1st to at earliest 17th, hell they probably would have finished ahead of NYI

The hope is you get someone much better than Zary at 10. But I very much understand why Calgary would pass. I would too as Calgary. But it was more so off the dome.


I don’t think I’d add to 10th overall for Andersson. If Buffalo for example wants to add to 11th and outbid us, which I could see as a very real possibility, I’d tap out there.

Yeah I was figuring around 16/17 myself... Either just make the playoffs or just miss them.

Zary is projecting into a very good 2C, Brock Nelson or Vinny Trocheck caliber player. I'm not sure what you are expecting from #10 OA. I would say if that's his projection then that is pretty close to average for players picked around 10th OA over the last 15 years. Were there better? Yes, but where there worse? Also yes.

I don't know why NJ would want Andersson at all, they are set on RD, but #10 by itself would not get it done

Since February 20th (roughly when the talks really started picking up) NJ had 15 games where they had 4+ goals against

Andersson is an excellent dman, which is what makes him a target. At that point I’d combine with it a trade such as the one thrown out constantly if Marino for Samuelsson. He’s certainly not a NEED, and so I wouldn’t be getting into a bidding war, but I’d certainly pay for him and 10th overall is a hefty price for almost any player.

Maybe you’re right about Zary. The lack of overall resume is a touch concerning because he didn’t make the NHL until 21. And maybe I’m a touch low on his upside. He feels like a high floor lower ceiling type player in my eyes, but there may just be something I’m not seeing. I fully expect Calgary to keep him and we’ll see how he develops. I wish him the best of luck.

Ok here's my take on Markstrom.

He's very good positionally, maybe the very best in that way. He looks great as long as the team in front of him plays sound structured defense. When things are going as he expects he's always in the right spot, tracks the puck well, knows what the defense will do before it happens and covers a lot of the net just due to sheer size.

But he's not quick and his reflexes are slow. When things go wrong, the team is having a bad game or the defensive structure breaks down momentariy he doesn't have the reflexes (especially not in his glove hand) to make the big save. When facing a good sniper with quick accurate shot who has a little time and space he's like a deer frozen in the headlights the puck either hits him or it's in the net before he reacts.

I know whenever I see another team's sniper with even a partial breakaway with Marky in net I'm like "oh no, they're going to score" and they usually do... When it's anyone else in net I'm like "Sure glad it's not Marky in net... Come on you can make the save" and they often do, more often than Marky anyhow.

That is why his numbers dropped off so much after half the starting defense was traded away. Put him on a team with a good defensive corps and sound defensive structure and he'll be fine. Put him on a team with a shaky young defense or an offense first team and he'll be nothing but an expensive disaster.