Quoting: JSEB93
"He's used defensively" isn't an argument for him having a good season - especially not when he hasn't been good defensively and only stats in the dzone marginally more. I keep wanting to say that because that's the % of his starts that are in the dzone. Yes - look at them. Ruhwedel is around 12%. St Ivany is around 7%. How do they not add up? That makes no sense. I'm the one giving you the actual zone starts. Of course you aren't - because you don't want to play any game that would prove you wrong. My number is in no way worthless. You said dzone starts. Thats literally what i provided. You're just trying to move the goalposts now because you know you're wrong.
So you agree his TOI was diminished. Okay cool - end of that topic. I'm right.
Yes - I am. It's you that isn't. No - I don't. Just another strawman from you. Stop with this defensive role nonsense dude - you have no point there. It doesn't mean he's had a good season. He also hasn't been good defensively.
Dude - take you own advice. Lead with numbers, not opinion. You've given nothing that says he's had a good season. Saying "he's been deployed defensively" is not a good argument for him having a good season
I literally gave you the Pettersson/Graves/POJ comparison. I also gave you evidence that he is clearly lacking the rest of the top4 on the Pens. I gave you his horrendous WAR on his player card
again not a single stat.
I gave you the Dzone start stat, in link.
They aren't wrong. That's it.
You are trying to talk about in game flow starts. Think about that for 1 minute would you.
You aren't going to change on your side of the ice for multiple reasons that should be obvious to anyone who's ever played hockey or watched. Especially when your bench is the far one on switches.
Players would rather stay in for shifts over 1:30 before try to switch pinned in their own end.
This is why this 12% stat you keep trying to justify is junk. It's a non-validated stat as they would say in analytics.
And the reason the one hockey-ref is giving you is way more telling.
Nor do neutral zone starts, tell you which direction the puck is heading. So it tells you nothing about use.
But the stat that hockey-ref gives you does.
As far as i'm concerned this should be obvious to anyone looking at it. So I don't know why you are obsessed with a non validated stat. When you are given a better one.
again, show me the justification for a "bad" year in the numbers. There are 31 other 2LD in the league, compare the numbers, lets see how it's a bad year.
I just gave you 1/4 the league. The numbers are on part with most, some a little better some a little worse but on par. Only guys getting paid way more have any real noticeable advantage. But you get what you pay for right?