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Créé par: JSteff5656
Équipe: 2024-25 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 3 avr. 2024
Publié: 3 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
25 000 000 $
21 900 000 $
88 500 000 $
1850 000 $
56 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
1950 000 $
1900 000 $
45 500 000 $
1950 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Berggren, Jonatan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. Wallinder, William
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (DET)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (DET)
2.
DET
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
3.
DET
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 700 000 $87 045 140 $0 $1 850 000 $654 860 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 7
6 200 000 $6 200 000 $
AD
RFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD
UFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C
RFA
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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3 avr. à 13 h 42
#26
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Uh, uh, uh he woulda, he shoulda, he coulda. Give me a break. He's not worth anything near what you're claiming. Hell, Eichel didn't get as much as you're talking about. Temper your silly expectations or be hilariously disappointed.


Eichel needed spinal disk replacement... Necas is an RFA and the Canes have more leverage...
3 avr. à 13 h 45
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I'm a big Necas fan, but Necas plays on a much better team, with better linemates and much better defensemen. Raymond doesn't play with Larkin all the time (see Compher), and definitely doesn't play with Cat (see Kane).

Just turned 22 and already outscoring Necas. Raymond + for Necas would be an L for Detroit.


Okay, so is Kane not better than Teravainen now? Is Compher worse than Kuznetsov or Kotkaniemi? All season, Necas has very rarely played with Aho, usually when chasing the game. Necas is still doing this in a system that kills individual talent. So, system, linemates favor Raymond, he gets PP1 time (usually) where Necas doesn't... Necas is the better skater... this is the entire point around production arguments. You can't just argue "more points better player". While Carolina's defensemen are better, they're better defensively. Ghost is outscoring anyone on Carolina's backend alone.
3 avr. à 13 h 47
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Okay, so is Kane not better than Teravainen now? Is Compher worse than Kuznetsov or Kotkaniemi? All season, Necas has very rarely played with Aho, usually when chasing the game. Necas is still doing this in a system that kills individual talent. So, system, linemates favor Raymond, he gets PP1 time (usually) where Necas doesn't... Necas is the better skater... this is the entire point around production arguments. You can't just argue "more points better player". While Carolina's defensemen are better, they're better defensively. Ghost is outscoring anyone on Carolina's backend alone.


Raymond doesn't play with Kane or Cat, what are you missing? He's centered by Larkin or Compher and can be seen on a line with Rasmussen at times. Keep trying.

You're exhausting, and just wrong.
3 avr. à 13 h 50
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Eichel needed spinal disk replacement... Necas is an RFA and the Canes have more leverage...


Leverage with who? Like I said prepare to be disappointed.
3 avr. à 13 h 51
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Why does everyone jump to team? Raymond has a better quality of teammate, unless you want to say Kuznetsov, Kotkaniemi and Tervaianen are as good as Cat and Larkin... Necas doesn't get top PP time because he's the one that has to bring the puck in on the second unit since he is an ELITE zone entry man. Necas is also HANDS DOWN the better skater between him and Raymond, which is much more praising of Necas than it is a shot at Raymond because he's not bad himself. You're adding to Raymond for Necas. It's not a lot, but consider Necas does this while also playing in a system that strangles offensive talent.


Nah bruh, I heard KK is a high end 3C at worst!!!
3 avr. à 13 h 51
#31
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Quoting: PuzzledActuary
Raymond doesn't play with Kane or Cat, what are you missing? He's centered by Larkin or Compher and can be seen on a line with Rasmussen at times. Keep trying.

You're exhausting, and just wrong.


So he STILL plays with better linemates, either Larkin or Compher is better than Kotkaniemi is what I'm told, and you're still trying to argue this? Not to mention Raymond only has 6 more even strength points despite playing 200 more minutes of ice time, playing with better players, and not playing in such a defensively demanding system. There's no arguing this. Necas is the better player.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Leverage with who? Like I said prepare to be disappointed.


Honestly there's not really much to be disappointed about. I wouldn't anticipate Necas going anywhere.

His name got brought up prior to the deadline, coincidentally around the time Carolina was said to be going hard after Pettersson.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Leverage with who? Like I said prepare to be disappointed.


They can re-sign Necas. Eichel was never going to play for the Sabres again, they'd already stripped the C off his chest. and in the end, this won't matter because he's not going to be traded.
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Quoting: RazorSeider53
Nah bruh, I heard KK is a high end 3C at worst!!!


So Compher's a mediocre 3C? Okay! tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy
3 avr. à 13 h 54
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Quoting: Caniac2000
So Compher's a mediocre 3C? Okay! tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy


That'd be weird math considering he has as many assists as KK does points overall.
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Quoting: RazorSeider53
That'd be weird math considering he has as many assists as KK does points overall.


So, what does your original comment have to do with anything? KK's a good 3C, Compher's a 2C... that means Compher is a better player... what was the point behind talking about Kotkaniemi then tears of joy tears of joy
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Quoting: Caniac2000
So, what does your original comment have to do with anything? KK's a good 3C, Compher's a 2C... that means Compher is a better player... what was the point behind talking about Kotkaniemi then tears of joy tears of joy


Probably because you brought up KK as a linemate of Necas...

Rocket science, I know.
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Probably because you brought up KK as a linemate of Necas...

Rocket science, I know.


He was! So what was your point in commenting? Just because you like seeing your own name? That's sad brother, and I truly hope you're doing okay.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
He was! So what was your point in commenting? Just because you like seeing your own name? That's sad brother, and I truly hope you're doing okay.


I dunno bud, you're the one that said KK is a high end 3C at worst but now suddenly he's a suboptimal linemate for Necas.
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Quoting: RazorSeider53
I dunno bud, you're the one that said KK is a high end 3C at worst but now suddenly he's a suboptimal linemate for Necas.


Necas isn't a 3rd line player... Kotkaniemi is a high end 3rd line player... are you okay? Are you having an aneurism or something? Usually you can at least understand points, but you seem to be struggling today. Just one of those days? I hope it's nothing more serious
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Necas isn't a 3rd line player... Kotkaniemi is a high end 3rd line player... are you okay? Are you having an aneurism or something? Usually you can at least understand points, but you seem to be struggling today. Just one of those days? I hope it's nothing more serious


Joe Veleno is also a high end third line player. Hoping we throw a $40M contract at him this summer! tears of joy
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Joe Veleno is also a high end third line player. Hoping we throw a $40M contract at him this summer! tears of joy


Veleno should not be on a 3rd line, but okay!
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Veleno should not be on a 3rd line, but okay!


Weird, because he's producing at the same level as high end 3C KK lmaoooo.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Why does everyone jump to team? Raymond has a better quality of teammate, unless you want to say Kuznetsov, Kotkaniemi and Tervaianen are as good as Cat and Larkin... Necas doesn't get top PP time because he's the one that has to bring the puck in on the second unit since he is an ELITE zone entry man. Necas is also HANDS DOWN the better skater between him and Raymond, which is much more praising of Necas than it is a shot at Raymond because he's not bad himself. You're adding to Raymond for Necas. It's not a lot, but consider Necas does this while also playing in a system that strangles offensive talent.


Quoting: Caniac2000
Why does everyone jump to team? Raymond has a better quality of teammate, unless you want to say Kuznetsov, Kotkaniemi and Tervaianen are as good as Cat and Larkin... Necas doesn't get top PP time because he's the one that has to bring the puck in on the second unit since he is an ELITE zone entry man. Necas is also HANDS DOWN the better skater between him and Raymond, which is much more praising of Necas than it is a shot at Raymond because he's not bad himself. You're adding to Raymond for Necas. It's not a lot, but consider Necas does this while also playing in a system that strangles offensive talent.


You are mentally ill if you think we would have to add to Raymond for Necas. If that trade was offered straight up, Carolina woul except before Yzerman could change is mind, and he would be fired immediately after making that trade.
 
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