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Steady rebuild - MN trade

Créé par: MTLaveragefan
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 13 mars 2024
Publié: 13 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Looking at Minnesota, They have a good RD with Spurgeon and Faber, but it's looking week on the LD and they don't have a good LHD PMD.

PLUS, they are tight with the cap, but still want to compete.

With Matheson at the hight of his value, it could be wise to trade him out (even if I think he could stick around an extra year and it wouldn't hurt).

With a Top 15 pick OR Yurov, MN could probably make an enticing offer to KH for Matheson.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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MTL
  1. Gaudreau, Frédérick
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Matheson, Michael
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Great PMD- LHD on a dirt cheap contract (4.8M$) - can instantly slot on the top pair with Faber or Spurgeon.
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14 mars à 15 h 49
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
When was the last time Matheson was mentioned in any team Canada talk?


He's a top pair D, we didn't say he was Top 15 Dman in the league.

If CHARIOT, can get a first - Matheson CAN DEFINITELY get at least a first round pick...

We are not asking for Guerin's first born - this whole debate is dumb.

If you don't think Matheson is worth a first, then you are clearly in bad faith.
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He's a top pair D, we didn't say he was Top 15 Dman in the league.

If CHARIOT, can get a first - Matheson CAN DEFINITELY get at least a first round pick...

We are not asking for Guerin's first born - this whole debate is dumb.

If you don't think Matheson is worth a first, then you are clearly in bad faith.


Just because Matheson is a top pair guy on a ****ty Montreal team, doesn’t mean he is on a contending team. I don’t see why Montreal fans can’t comprehend that.
He wouldn’t play over Brodin. 0% chance of that. He likely wouldn’t play over Middleton, maybe a 5-10% chance he would. So that leaves him on the third pair. He’s not as good as Montreal fans are saying. Sure you could get a 1st for him, the market is crazy and sometimes teams get desperate and every GM has their reason to move a pick if they want. But saying he’s a top pair guy is just egregious. Couldn’t be further from the truth.
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Just because Matheson is a top pair guy on a ****ty Montreal team, doesn’t mean he is on a contending team. I don’t see why Montreal fans can’t comprehend that.
He wouldn’t play over Brodin. 0% chance of that. He likely wouldn’t play over Middleton, maybe a 5-10% chance he would. So that leaves him on the third pair. He’s not as good as Montreal fans are saying. Sure you could get a 1st for him, the market is crazy and sometimes teams get desperate and every GM has their reason to move a pick if they want. But saying he’s a top pair guy is just egregious. Couldn’t be further from the truth.


You are in bad faith buddy, It's no use to have a discussion with you.

While Brodin/Middelton v. Matheson in the top 4 is debatable - depending if you want more of a defensive-minded D paired on the first pair. Matheson is a LHD PMD which is excellent in transition and at creating offense - MN does not have that on the LHD, which gives him the edge in certain systems (which I think MN would utilize).

His defending is actually decent... he just gets a "stroke" from time to time and tries to do to much (happens when you play 28min a night). Like, he's a good mobile D, but he's not Makar, and I think he forgets that sometimes.

In terms of value he's a guaranteed first round pick. Hell! SAVARD is propably worth a first, Brodin too.

Even in the worst of case where a coach doesn't want to break the top 4, A Dcore of :

Brodin - Faber
Middleton - Spurgeon
Matheson - Bogo/Merrill

or

Matheson - Faber
Brodin - Spurgeon
Middleton - Bogo/Merrill

or

Brodin - Faber
Matheson- Spurgeon
Middleton - Bogo/Merrill

would be EXTREMELY GOOD, I'm more the type to have a third pair of purely defensive Dmen (Middleton - Bogo/Merrill), leaving Matheson in the top 4... but you have a very diverse and mobile top 4 that could crush any opposition with MN's cycle game where Matheson can effectively pich and back check.
 
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