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Équipe: 2017-18 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 17 juill. 2017
Publié: 19 juill. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
PHI
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
  2. Juulsen, Noah
  3. Plekanec, Tomas
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Giroux, Claude
  2. Read, Matt
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
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2019
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $66 449 167 $1 062 500 $4 425 000 $8 550 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Konecny, Travis
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Plekanec, Tomas
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Filppula, Valtteri
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Patrick, Nolan
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD
UFA - 3
Voracek, Jakub
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Lindblom, Oskar
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG
UFA - 3
Couturier, Sean
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 5
Simmonds, Wayne
3 975 000 $3 975 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Weal, Jordan
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Lehterä, Jori
4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Raffl, Michael
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Laughton, Scott
962 500 $962 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Weise, Dale
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MacDonald, Andrew
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Provorov, Ivan
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 2
Elliott, Brian
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Gostisbehere, Shayne
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
Neuvirth, Michal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Hägg, Robert
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Morin, Samuel
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG, AG
UFA - 1
Manning, Brandon
975 000 $975 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Gudas, Radko
2 345 000 $2 345 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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19 juill. 2017 à 16 h 14
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MONSTER overpayment for a declining player!
19 juill. 2017 à 16 h 24
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MONSTER overpayment for a declining player!


MOSNSTER misconception of an above-average player!
19 juill. 2017 à 16 h 44
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Giroux is good, I'm sure, but this is an overpayment.

How about Pacioretty and Plek (3M retained) for Giroux and Read (cap-dump negative value)? I ran the numbers, we'd be swallowing 4.4M more cap, and that checks out okay.
19 juill. 2017 à 17 h 0
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Giroux is good, I'm sure, but this is an overpayment.

How about Pacioretty and Plek (3M retained) for Giroux and Read (cap-dump negative value)? I ran the numbers, we'd be swallowing 4.4M more cap, and that checks out okay.


Not interested in Pacioretty. Leave the structure of the deal above together and remove the parts you think are making it an overpayment.
19 juill. 2017 à 17 h 9
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Giroux is good, I'm sure, but this is an overpayment.

How about Pacioretty and Plek (3M retained) for Giroux and Read (cap-dump negative value)? I ran the numbers, we'd be swallowing 4.4M more cap, and that checks out okay.


more like Lehkonen, Plekanec, Galchenyuk, 2019 1st
19 juill. 2017 à 17 h 16
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Giroux is good, I'm sure, but this is an overpayment.

How about Pacioretty and Plek (3M retained) for Giroux and Read (cap-dump negative value)? I ran the numbers, we'd be swallowing 4.4M more cap, and that checks out okay.


more like Lehkonen, Plekanec, Galchenyuk, 2019 1st


Pass on Galchenyuk. Rather have the 2018 and 2020 1st round pick. The Flyers could wait until 2021 for the 2nd 1st if need be. 2018 1st is key to this deal structure.
19 juill. 2017 à 22 h 24
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Lol 2 first rd picks for a 29 year old declining center. makes no sense.
19 juill. 2017 à 22 h 33
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Giroux is good, I'm sure, but this is an overpayment.

How about Pacioretty and Plek (3M retained) for Giroux and Read (cap-dump negative value)? I ran the numbers, we'd be swallowing 4.4M more cap, and that checks out okay.


Not interested in Pacioretty. Leave the structure of the deal above together and remove the parts you think are making it an overpayment.


Here is where we stand right now
1. The structure must remain for you
2. 2018 pick is crucial for you
3. 2018 1st round pick is the key overpayment here for me
4. If we swap the 2018 1st pick for 2018 2nd round pick, then I'd be okay with this.
5. I notice you don't need any salary retaining, but I'd be glad to retain half of Plekanec's contract if you have any other transactions in mind.

MTL Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
Juulsen
Conditional 2018 2nd round pick (if Giroux notches under 55pts, then the lower of Chicago's or MTL's 2nd round pick; if notches above 55pts, then higher of CHI's or MTL's 2nd round pick)
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (whichever of the two you prefer)

Honestly if you want that 2018 first round pick, you have to remove the other pick, 'cause you and I know that draft is deep and even playoff contenders like us can get something good.
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20 juill. 2017 à 11 h 53
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Not interested in Pacioretty. Leave the structure of the deal above together and remove the parts you think are making it an overpayment.


Here is where we stand right now
1. The structure must remain for you
2. 2018 pick is crucial for you
3. 2018 1st round pick is the key overpayment here for me
4. If we swap the 2018 1st pick for 2018 2nd round pick, then I'd be okay with this.
5. I notice you don't need any salary retaining, but I'd be glad to retain half of Plekanec's contract if you have any other transactions in mind.

MTL Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
Juulsen
Conditional 2018 2nd round pick (if Giroux notches under 55pts, then the lower of Chicago's or MTL's 2nd round pick; if notches above 55pts, then higher of CHI's or MTL's 2nd round pick)
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (whichever of the two you prefer)

Honestly if you want that 2018 first round pick, you have to remove the other pick, 'cause you and I know that draft is deep and even playoff contenders like us can get something good.


Montreal Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
2018 First Round Pick
2021 First Round Pick

Flyers Give:
Giroux
Montreal's 7th Rd Pick

You can keep Juulsen and make it a 2021 first since you are a playoff contender.
20 juill. 2017 à 14 h 36
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Here is where we stand right now
1. The structure must remain for you
2. 2018 pick is crucial for you
3. 2018 1st round pick is the key overpayment here for me
4. If we swap the 2018 1st pick for 2018 2nd round pick, then I'd be okay with this.
5. I notice you don't need any salary retaining, but I'd be glad to retain half of Plekanec's contract if you have any other transactions in mind.

MTL Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
Juulsen
Conditional 2018 2nd round pick (if Giroux notches under 55pts, then the lower of Chicago's or MTL's 2nd round pick; if notches above 55pts, then higher of CHI's or MTL's 2nd round pick)
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (whichever of the two you prefer)

Honestly if you want that 2018 first round pick, you have to remove the other pick, 'cause you and I know that draft is deep and even playoff contenders like us can get something good.


Montreal Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
2018 First Round Pick
2021 First Round Pick

Flyers Give:
Giroux
Montreal's 7th Rd Pick

You can keep Juulsen and make it a 2021 first since you are a playoff contender.


Removing Juulsen does make things more bearable. I can consider this trade, though I'd have to think long and hard if I want to make such a sacrifice.
20 juill. 2017 à 15 h 38
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Removing Juulsen does make things more bearable. I can consider this trade, though I'd have to think long and hard if I want to make such a sacrifice.


Hopefully Bergevin is thinking short and soft and accepts the original deal.
 
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