Karlsson again

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Créé par: Xspyrit

Équipe: 2024-25 Sénateurs d'Ottawa

Date de création initiale: 12 mars 2024

Publié: 12 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Hard to see the Penguins turning this down. They get two 25 y/o players, exactly what they want to do. Of course, there's injury concerns (I would never trade Norris if not) but if he gets past these and gets close to his pre-injury form, Pens win this deal very easily.

For Ottawa it's about getting more competitive now. Chychrun is LHD, not needed and not a fit and hard to rely on Norris with his problems. Rust and Acciari boost 2 lines tremendously. Karlsson is another dynamic play driver. Sens will eventually need to get stronger on defense and that will start when Kleven is fully ready which will allow them to trade Brannstrom. Sanderson and JBD are young and will need to continue getting stronger.

Hamonic and Korpisalo just can't be here next season.

Seriously, if it's too much, remove the 3rd and 7th, add Sokolov and/or Thomson. I don't care. The deal is Chychrun + Norris for EK + Rust + 2nd

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Brännström, Erik	3	2 000 000 $
Crookshank, Angus	2	900 000 $
Guénette, Maxence	2	900 000 $
Katchouk, Boris	2	900 000 $
Mandolese, Kevin	2	900 000 $
Reinhardt, Cole	2	900 000 $
Sokolov, Egor	2	900 000 $
Søgaard, Mads	2	1 100 000 $
Thomson, Lassi	2	900 000 $
Pinto, Shane	7	5 500 000 $
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier	2	900 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Stolarz, Anthony		1	2 500 000 $
Noesen, Stefan		3	2 500 000 $

Transactions

OTT

Acciari, Noel
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier [Droits de RFA]
Karlsson, Erik (3 000 000 $ retained)
Rust, Bryan
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (SJS)

PIT

Rachats de contrats

Colin White: -625 000 $
Joonas Korpisalo: 333 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	87 700 000 $	86 767 380 $	850 000 $	0 $	932 620 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Tkachuk, Brady 8 205 714 $8 205 714 $ AG UFA - 4	Stützle, Tim 8 350 000 $8 350 000 $ C UFA - 7	Giroux, Claude 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 1
Joseph, Mathieu 2 950 000 $2 950 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Pinto, Shane 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C RFA	Batherson, Drake 4 975 000 $4 975 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Noesen, Stefan 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA	Greig, Ridly 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 4
Crookshank, Angus 900 000 $900 000 $ AG RFA	Acciari, Noel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Kastelic, Mark 835 000 $835 000 $ C, AD RFA - 1
Katchouk, Boris 900 000 $900 000 $ AG RFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Sanderson, Jake 8 050 000 $8 050 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Karlsson, Erik 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 3	Stolarz, Anthony 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ G UFA
Chabot, Thomas 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Zub, Artem 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Forsberg, Anton 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Brännström, Erik 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD, AG RFA	Bernard-Docker, Jacob 805 000 $805 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 900 000 $900 000 $ DG RFA

12 mars à 12 h 20

fil97

Rejoint: juin 2018

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if you take out the retention pit accepts imo

12 mars à 12 h 20

PensGMwannabe

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That's 3 surgeries for Norris shoulder right? Have to see how that progresses and heals. That's a long-term contract he has!

12 mars à 12 h 30

KiSS_My_Asthma

KissMyAsthma

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I actually think this solves a lot of problems for both clubs.
I would suggest that maybe you swap Tkachuk for Norris?
Idk if I'm off base hear though.

All things being equal, I don't think they move EK 65
I don't know if Ottawa moves on from anyone in the core

12 mars à 17 h 36

athrin

Rejoint: mai 2017

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better chance OTT bring back zeitsev than EK.

12 mars à 19 h 59

Jeuck75

Rejoint: juill. 2019

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Quoting: KiSS_My_Asthma

Senators wouldn't do Tkachuk alone for all that let alone Chychrun being in the deal too

13 mars à 19 h 54

Xspyrit

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: fil97

if you take out the retention pit accepts imo

No because without it, bad trade for Ottawa. They're adding 5 M$ in cap while giving the 2 guys who will be the best players easily in the near future

Quoting: PensGMwannabe

That's 3 surgeries for Norris shoulder right? Have to see how that progresses and heals. That's a long-term contract he has!

That's the risk. But Tarasenko also had 3

Quoting: KiSS_My_Asthma

I actually think this solves a lot of problems for both clubs.
I would suggest that maybe you swap Tkachuk for Norris?
Idk if I'm off base hear though.

No, Tkachuk has way too much value for this deal. Norris is in this deal because of his injury problems. If not, no way Ottawa would give both Norris and Chychrun for Karlsson and Rust

15 mars à 12 h 2

fil97

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Quoting: Xspyrit

No because without it, bad trade for Ottawa. They're adding 5 M$ in cap while giving the 2 guys who will be the best players easily in the near future

yeah not that I care... obviously pit will try to contend the next 2 years for Sid and geno and won't give away any cap.

it's either without retention or no deal.

15 mars à 16 h 18

Xspyrit

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Quoting: fil97

yeah not that I care... obviously pit will try to contend the next 2 years for Sid and geno and won't give away any cap.

it's either without retention or no deal.

It's not about what you want, it's about what happens in the real world

Look at Erik Karlsson trade last summer. How much was he worth at 10.0 AAV?

You think you can get Chyhcrun with just a mid/late first? That pick was clearly not expected to be as good as it is now.

Acciari has 2 more years at 2.0 and has 6 pts on the season, he probably has negative value at this point. Bryan Rust will be 32 y/o next season and has 4 more years at 5.125 AAV, not much value due to age/contract too. You're basically getting 24 y/o Norris for free here because of injury concerns

Karlsson at 10.0 AAV doesn't return Chychrun

16 mars à 14 h 9

fil97

Rejoint: juin 2018

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Quoting: Xspyrit

exactly is about what happens in the real world. pit is not retaining 3 mil on any of their players. the only chance is if the return is "out of this world" and this is not the case.
again, pit refuses.

17 mars à 19 h 16

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Xspyrit

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Quoting: fil97

Then you will have to keep Karlsson until the end of his contract or get a not very desired contract in return

No one is going to give a big return for Karlsson at 10.0 AAV

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