that offer is laughable. only think of actual value is howard and the 1st and there's no way that gets you buch at 50% for a year and a half.

A 2nd, 3rd, 4th? And also a great AHL player that is going to be a NHLer next year. He could be rn

lol great ahl player. hes 23 and still cant even get in the lineup. being ppg at 23 in the ahl is not a flex since a lot of players there are younger.
2nd,3rd, 4th is nothing of actual value.

If he was available lots of other teams would beat that offer. howard isn't even that good of a prospect.

ask your self this. what incentive does stl have to do this trade. a late first and a decent prospect. they could probably get that at the deadline next year. Not to mention your asking them to retain 50% too. lol what a joke

Agreed it’s a bad offer

No need to get so butt hurt. Ig i would too if i was a blues fan but u musta missed the “ just a idea” description on this post

Tampa just doesn’t have the pieces in their system to do something this big.

It’s not that big. Buch is good but he’s not even a ppg. He’ll get a little bit more than what toffoli gets

He’s been an average of a PPG over the past 3 seasons playing in pretty much every situation. He also has another year and you’re asking us to retain 2.9m for 2 years.

Yes the return should be big if he’s moved. You aren’t paying for a scorer only like you are for Toffoli. If that’s all you want to add with very little aspect of a checking game by all means go that direction.

where am I being butthurt. I commented why your proposal is trash. your the one who's being butthurt since your taking shots at blue fans. hilarious thing is I'm not even a blues fan.

if you cant handle criticism don't post a trash proposal.

lol toffoli is a ufa. buch has 1 more year. hes not ppg this year but he was ppg in 21-22 and 22-23. Gms know how to assess numbers unlike idiots so they will definitely take that into account.

this isnt too far off though

This is a big return. This is all we have. This is just an idea!!!!

This is all we have. I can’t spawn in assets when all of them went into our 4th line beast!!!!

I understand that, and it’s not really a bad offer. I just don’t think Tampa has the assets to go after a big fish right now unless they want to tap in to their roster which they probably shouldn’t. Howard isn’t a bad prospect. It’s just hard to get excited about something like this when the 1st is in 2026 and Howard isn’t really a highly graded NHL prospect but a solid one.

No, but Tampa really doesn’t have much else to play with. They’ve been buying consistently and it’s taken a toll on their pool. That’s all I was trying to get at. I just think the Blues could get something similar or probably better at the draft or in the offseason or even possibly next deadline depending on how you view a deferred pick with our timeline.

Hahaha what???? Dude. You have no clue what you;re even bidding on. It's shocking, the takes you just unleashed. Maybe warn someone before they get fourth degree burns from reading them.

Lmao I was just kidding. I’m tired of hearing how little assets we have every time I make a post. I just wanna have fun !!!!!!

This guy gets mad when you prove him wrong

Lmao