The Tanner Jeannot Trade

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Créé par: bolts03

Équipe: 2023-24 Lightning de Tampa Bay

Date de création initiale: 6 mars 2024

Publié: 6 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Just one year out and this trade may be the one that sinks the hopes of a Tampa dynasty. This trade was bad from the moment it was announced. But as I think most Tampa fans did we said screw it who needs those picks this is our window those picks don’t matter. Now a year later not having a first round pick for the next two drafts was probably a big reason for why we didn’t land Hanifin. In five years when the whole draft class that Nashville was able to select through this trade has developed this trade may look so so much worse. I truly believe this trade has the chance to go down as one of the worst in the salary cap era.

As for the player, Jeannot is just fine and has a role on the team but for what was given up and his inability to stay healthy it just hurts so much.

JBB hit a home run with Hagel but other than that he has appeared out of his league with trades and contracts given out to declining assets.

(If he gets Chychrun I take it back)

Transactions

TBL

Chychrun, Jakob (2 300 000 $ retained)

OTT

Perbix, Nick
Thompson, Jack
Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (TBL)

Rachats de contrats

Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Adam Henrique: 1 456 250 $ (50%)
Patrick Maroon: 200 000 $ (20%)

Enfoui

Philippe Myers: 250 000 $ (1 400 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	78 610 415 $	0 $	137 500 $	4 889 585 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Stamkos, Steven 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 1	Point, Brayden 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C, AD NMC UFA - 7	Kucherov, Nikita 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 4
Hagel, Brandon 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ C, AG UFA - 8	Chaffee, Mitchell 775 000 $775 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Eyssimont, Michael 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2	Paul, Nicholas 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 6	Sheary, Conor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 3
Motte, Tyler 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke 800 000 $800 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 2	Watson, Austin 776 665 $776 665 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hedman, Victor 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Raddysh, Darren 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 5
Chychrun, Jakob 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Cernak, Erik 5 200 000 $5 200 000 $ DD UFA - 8	Johansson, Jonas 775 000 $775 000 $ G UFA - 2
Lilleberg, Emil Martinsen 870 000 $870 000 $ (80 000 $$80K) DG RFA - 2	Crozier, Maxwell 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Fleury, Haydn 762 500 $762 500 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Jeannot, Tanner 2 665 000 $2 665 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Sergachev, Mikhail 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 8
De Haan, Calvin 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Seabrook, Brent 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Brown, Logan 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG RFA - 1

6 mars à 23 h 20

boltsfan71

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tampas not buying anymore

6 mars à 23 h 20

sens65

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That offer doesn't get you retention.

FoxYou727 et Fergy22 a aimé ceci.

6 mars à 23 h 21

bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

tampas not buying anymore

I could see them buying if it sets them up for next year. Other than that I agree

6 mars à 23 h 22

boltsfan71

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Quoting: bolts03

I could see them buying if it sets them up for next year. Other than that I agree

Yea they’re planning to sell

6 mars à 23 h 24

LordStanlersCup

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I really hope we dont get chychrun but as for the jeannot trade I think it could go down as the worst trade of the cap era at the moment of the trade. Some trades have aged worse like the Huberdeau- Tkachuk deal or the Dubois trade but those trades were seen as closer when the trade was made. The second the Jeannot trade was announced everyone knew it was terrible. Some trades have aged really well for JBB but overall I can't think of a single trade that he didn't overpay at the time of the trade

6 mars à 23 h 24

bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Yea they’re planning to sell

Who do they sell? They have no assets worth anything that aren’t part of the long term plan.

6 mars à 23 h 25

boltsfan71

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Quoting: bolts03

Who do they sell? They have no assets worth anything that aren’t part of the long term plan.

Anyone’s available besides Kucherov hagel point sergachev and cernak and vasilevskiy

6 mars à 23 h 26

bolts03

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Quoting: LordStanlersCup

Spot on. At some point we have to start asking if he is the answer at GM moving forward. I don’t think we are there yet but another year or so of this might be it for him.

LordStanlersCup a aimé ceci.

6 mars à 23 h 26

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Quoting: sens65

That offer doesn't get you retention.

Put down the crack pipe

6 mars à 23 h 28

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bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Anyone’s available besides Kucherov hagel point sergachev and cernak and vasilevskiy

Problem is that outside of those guys nobody is worth more than a 6th round pick. And no they aren’t trading Stamkos or Hedman.

6 mars à 23 h 29

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Quoting: bolts03

Problem is that outside of those guys nobody is worth more than a 6th round pick. And no they aren’t trading Stamkos or Hedman.

Stamkos and hedman are most definitely available

6 mars à 23 h 31

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Stamkos and hedman are most definitely available

Stamkos would just block any trade with his full NMC. Hedman has plenty of game left in him on a good deal. Trading him doesn’t help Tampa.

6 mars à 23 h 33

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Quoting: bolts03

Stamkos would just block any trade with his full NMC. Hedman has plenty of game left in him on a good deal. Trading him doesn’t help Tampa.

Neither of them are getting resigned and stamkos is next to useless so might as well try to trade

6 mars à 23 h 37

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Neither of them are getting resigned and stamkos is next to useless so might as well try to trade

Personally I would be okay with being bad for a year or two in order for both of them to retire as Bolts. They given so much to this franchise I hope they never wear another jersey. 2026 could be a lottery pick at that point and we start the journey over again.

6 mars à 23 h 37

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Retire as bolts that’s ridiculous lol

6 mars à 23 h 54

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Best to put Boltsfan71 on ignore if you don't want your thread to quickly get derailed with baseless claims and very outlandish positions based on zero knowledge and/or evidence.

7 mars à 0 h 7

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I'd do the trade from Tampa's view, but I have doubts that's enough for retention given the extra year he has on his deal.

7 mars à 6 h 54

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Retire as bolts that’s ridiculous lol

Kinda sounding like you aren’t a real “bolts fan” lol. Being as great as the Lighting have been this past decade is something we will likely never see again. It is what it is. Cherish the good times and honor two of the greatest players in not on Lightning but NHL history.

7 mars à 7 h 36

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that dont get chych, OTT declines

7 mars à 11 h 17

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Quoting: bolts03

A lot of good players walk, it’s part of the sport it’s a business and they know that

7 mars à 14 h 30

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Quoting: Justafan79

Put down the crack pipe

Would you trade Erik Cernak for Lassi Thomson, Jacob Bernard-Docker, and a 2026 1st?

7 mars à 15 h 53

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Quoting: sens65

Would you trade Erik Cernak for Lassi Thomson, Jacob Bernard-Docker, and a 2026 1st?

That would be a good question if the comparison was remotely close. Cernak is better, plays the more valuable position, and is locked up long term at a nice price.
He is locked in 6 years longer than Chychrun and every asset you named for Ottawa with the exception of the pick isn't close to being as good. So, to answer your question, no, ,but your question is an utterly moronic comparison..
Jack Thompson is a MUCH BETTER prospect than Lassi Thomson, Nick Perbix is Much better than JBD and the picks a wash. Assinine comparison.

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