Holy **** Pens fans need to stop, YOU'RE NOT GETTING HOGLANDER!!!!! Also VAN has no need for another LHD prospect so Ludvig is unappealing too.

For the Sharks you would probably have to throw in another late pick to get them to wait a year unless it was apart of the original conditions

Three months ago PIT fans were saying Ludvig was the answer at LD, or that raves would work or that DUbas had a plan by signing all these never weres/has beens

I think the inclusion of Hoglander is HIGHLY unlikely in any Guentzel trade. Subtracting him and Lindholm to add one player hurts the depth of the Canucks, which has been their butter. People may look at their top end, but it has been the Garland-Joshua pairing on L3 and Hoglander on L4 driving their margins and results during their peak runs.

So you can keep dreaming Pens fans, but the inclusion of Hoglander in any trade seems counterproductive from a Canucks perspective if the goal is to compete. Also, other than Lindholm, I don't know if I can see Allvin parting with any Swedes in a trade. Dude loves them all too much - Hoglander, DPettersson, Willander, Lekkerimaki - and they are all premium assets with high upside in the next ~2-3 years.