A Rebuttal to the 8 Billion Larsson to the Leafs ACGMs

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Créé par: KrakenTheCode

Équipe: 2023-24 Kraken de Seattle

Date de création initiale: 29 févr. 2024

Publié: 29 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Seattle is almost certainly not trading Adam Larsson anytime soon. He paces the team in minutes almost every game and is one half of their best defensive pairing. Simply put, he's a keystone piece of the Kraken roster that they cannot afford to lose, and for those reasons Seattle isn't considering trading him at all this deadline. It has already been reported that this is the case.

However, since there seems to be a daily deluge of ACGMs proposing Larsson trades, especially Larsson-to-the-Leafs trades, I've created this ACGM as a blanket response instead of responding to all of them individually. Below is a mock hypothetical trade of what I consider fair value for Larsson in a deal with an applicable trade comp. Keep in mind that since Seattle has all the leverage and no incentive to move Larsson, even that offer might not convince them. I cannot stress this enough, Larsson is basically guaranteed to remain a member of the Kraken for the foreseeable future.

As always, let me know your thoughts! Happy Leap Day and Go Kraken!

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SEA

Niemelä, Topi
Robertson, Nicholas
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

Trade comp: Jake Muzzin to Toronto near the 2019 trade deadline for Sean Durzi, Carl Grundström, and a 2019 first round pick.

Larsson and Muzzin are both shutdown top four defensemen with an extra year of term on their contracts at an identical cap hit of $4M. Muzzin went for a quality RHD prospect, promising young forward, and a first rounder. Larsson should garner at least that much and probably more since he's a RHD as opposed to a LHD. Robertson is more established than Grundström was, but Durzi at the time of the deal is more highly rated than Niemelä is now, so it balances out. The extra third round pick accounts for the disparity in value between a RHD and LHD.

Keep in mind that quantity does not equal quality, so any team trying to trade for a player of Larsson's caliber will have to offer up quality assets in exchange, not agglomerate a bunch of lower value pieces and call it fair.

TOR

Larsson, Adam

Enfoui

Chris Driedger: 2 350 000 $ (3 500 000 $)

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	76 875 743 $	129 910 $	1 907 500 $	6 624 257 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
McCann, Jared 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4	Beniers, Matthew 897 500 $897 500 $ (1 850 000 $$2M) C RFA - 1	Eberle, Jordan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Schwartz, Jaden 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 3	Wennberg, Alexander 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 1	Burakovsky, André 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Tolvanen, Eeli 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Gourde, Yanni 5 166 666 $5 166 666 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Bjorkstrand, Oliver 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Tatar, Tomas 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kartye, Tye 859 167 $859 167 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, C RFA - 2	Tanev, Brandon 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dunn, Vince 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Borgen, William 2 700 000 $2 700 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Daccord, Joey 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ G UFA - 2
Oleksiak, Jamie 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 3	Schultz, Justin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Grubauer, Philipp 5 900 000 $5 900 000 $ G NTC UFA - 4
Dumoulin, Brian 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Evans, Ryker 897 500 $897 500 $ DG RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Yamamoto, Kailer 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Fleury, Cale 800 000 $800 000 $ DD RFA - 2
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, AD RFA - 1
Niemelä, Topi 856 667 $856 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD RFA - 2

29 févr. à 13 h 33

mmccRed198913

Rejoint: juin 2022

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Seems perfectly logical, only difference is Muzzin actually had the playoff pedigree. Larsson does not but that's on the buyer to figure out how much that bothers them.

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29 févr. à 13 h 34

Caniac555

Hurricane Waddell

Rejoint: mai 2018

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FYI - got banned for a month because I received infractions due to trying to be the ‘police’ for posts about JT Miller to the Canes two years ago.

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29 févr. à 14 h 32

KrakenTheCode

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: juill. 2022

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Quoting: Caniac555

FYI - got banned for a month because I received infractions due to trying to be the ‘police’ for posts about JT Miller to the Canes two years ago.

Thanks, appreciate the heads up!

29 févr. à 14 h 43

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

Rejoint: juin 2018

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Add to all you say the fact that Adam Larsson has appeared in every single game that the Kraken have ever played, and there's a small but significant sentimental factor there.

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29 févr. à 20 h 47

vols94

Rejoint: juill. 2018

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Get ready for more Larsson to the leafs. the panel mentioned again tonight on the leafs game

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