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4 for games till the deadline

Créé par: Redmile04
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2024
Publié: 25 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
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1.
CGY
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Vanecek, Vitek
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Markström, Jacob
Détails additionnels:
Reluctantly Retains 1,500,000 of remaining contract.
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Tanev, Christopher
Détails additionnels:
Retained 50% of expiring Contract
3.
CGY
  1. Lundell, Anton
  2. Sawchyn, Gracyn [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Hanifin, Noah
  2. Kerins, Rory
Détails additionnels:
Sign and trade 8 x 56 million. Retained 25% of expiring Contract for Hanifin.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 500 000 $73 795 833 $0 $1 912 500 $9 704 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1

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25 févr. à 19 h 49
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I don't see Flames ownership signing off on trading to Tanev to Edmonton and then paying him to play for the Oilers.
25 févr. à 19 h 50
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$56 million x 8 years?
(Assuming that is $7m x 8 years = $56m)

If they also retain 25%…they would on the hook for $1.75m x 8 years in retention.
25 févr. à 19 h 52
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And the cost to retain $1.5m x 2.2 years ($3.3m) should not equal 1st+2nd+Vanecek. More like a 3rd round pick.
25 févr. à 19 h 57
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$56 million x 8 years?
(Assuming that is $7m x 8 years = $56m)

If they also retain 25%…they would on the hook for $1.75m x 8 years in retention.


Retained on expiring Contract
25 févr. à 19 h 58
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And the cost to retain $1.5m x 2.2 years ($3.3m) should not equal 1st+2nd+Vanecek. More like a 3rd round pick.


Vanecek +a 3rd for retaining 1.5 mill of Markstrom expiring Contract?
25 févr. à 20 h 0
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I don't see Flames ownership signing off on trading to Tanev to Edmonton and then paying him to play for the Oilers.


Edmonton can't afford tanev without retention. Unless they add something to the 2024 1st.
25 févr. à 20 h 2
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Vanecek +a 3rd for retaining 1.5 mill of Markstrom expiring Contract?


So what does the 1st pay for?
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25 févr. à 20 h 6
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Retained on expiring Contract


If it is a “sign and trade”…the retention is applied when the trade is executed so would apply all remaining salary due (current contract and extension).

Would have to be extension in place…or no retention. The acquiring team can still extend 8 years if he is on roster at deadline.
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25 févr. à 20 h 16
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Edmonton can't afford tanev without retention. Unless they add something to the 2024 1st.


I highly doubt they will trade Tanev to Edmonton unless they get an absolute haul. They're your biggest rival, you need some incentive to help them.
25 févr. à 20 h 53
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I highly doubt they will trade Tanev to Edmonton unless they get an absolute haul. They're your biggest rival, you need some incentive to help them.


We traded lindholm to Vancouver. Lucic trade?
25 févr. à 21 h 28
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We traded lindholm to Vancouver. Lucic trade?


Lucic for Neal was a disaster for a disaster.

The Lindholm trade got them a significant haul and they didn't retain. If Edmonton gives them a haul sure.
26 févr. à 0 h 17
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And the cost to retain $1.5m x 2.2 years ($3.3m) should not equal 1st+2nd+Vanecek. More like a 3rd round pick.


that isn't remotely close to market value, it'd cost a 1st
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that isn't remotely close to market value, it'd cost a 1st


retaining 1.5 mill AAV would not cost a 1st lmao
26 févr. à 0 h 19
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retaining 1.5 mill AAV would not cost a 1st lmao


for 2.5 years
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for 2.5 years


thats 4 million
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for 2.5 years


1.5 in deadline retention is going to cost like a 5th.

Over a full year a 3rd, and a 3rd again for the next full year.

3rd+3rd+5th at most,
26 févr. à 0 h 21
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1.5 in deadline retention is going to cost like a 5th.

Over a full year a 3rd, and a 3rd again for the next full year.

3rd+3rd+5th at most,


yeah that's about fair imo
maybe 2nd 3rd 4th
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that isn't remotely close to market value, it'd cost a 1st


$1.5m x 2.2 = $3.3m.

So ~ 3rd + 5th
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yeah that's about fair imo
maybe 2nd 3rd 4th


2nd+4th at the highest for that retention.

for a 1st I'd argue it has to be somewhere between 2 mill and 2.5 mill AAV in retention
26 févr. à 19 h 11
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2nd+4th at the highest for that retention.

for a 1st I'd argue it has to be somewhere between 2 mill and 2.5 mill AAV in retention


that seems fair, probably the 1st time a compromise has ever been reached on capfriendly
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that seems fair, probably the 1st time a compromise has ever been reached on capfriendly


Always easier to deal in picks than prospects/players.

No attachment so I always prefer to speak about values in terms of picks.

I’d pay approximately 2 1sts for a 50% retained Markstrom or whatever that looks like in equivalent assets.
 
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