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Goalie edition

Créé par: neo115joe
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 21 févr. 2024
Publié: 21 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Trade pkg is as follows:
Siegenthaler (3.4mil)
Vanecek (3.4 mil)
Scmhid (.9mil)
And any of these prospects to pick from:
Casey/Stillman/Gritsyuk/Edwards/Clarke/Misyul
Holtz and Mercer ain't going anywhere!
I'd trade Timo Meier before either
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Gibson, John (1 400 000 $ retained)
  2. Jones, Max
  3. Warren, Noah
Détails additionnels:
Draft picks for retention compensation
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CGY
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21 févr. à 11 h 0
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What’s your offer?

I can tell you right off the bat that we aren’t trading Warren
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
What’s your offer?

I can tell you right off the bat that we aren’t trading Warren


Read the description it has the pkg for each team
21 févr. à 11 h 5
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Read the description it has the pkg for each team


No picks huh?
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
No picks huh?


Picks included in retention only deals
21 févr. à 11 h 8
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Nashville declines. We don't need goalies so that package has no value to us as a base for this trade. I'm sure there's some package of the prospects that you listed that would get you Saros, but not Novak on top without sending a top end forward talent back. You're also not getting any RD prospects out of Nashville so Prokop wouldn't be in this. I don't know why you'd target Gross over someone like Barrie, Fabbro, or Carrier who are actively in trade discussions.

And a pick would need to be included in that package for any of these players.
21 févr. à 11 h 15
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Sounds like you're not getting a goalie then
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Quoting: nativewulf
Nashville declines. We don't need goalies so that package has no value to us as a base for this trade. I'm sure there's some package of the prospects that you listed that would get you Saros, but not Novak on top without sending a top end forward talent back. You're also not getting any RD prospects out of Nashville so Prokop wouldn't be in this. I don't know why you'd target Gross over someone like Barrie, Fabbro, or Carrier who are actively in trade discussions.

And a pick would need to be included in that package for any of these players.


Gross is an UFA, but could be kept at a low avv, similar to what nj did with Lazar.
Siegenthaler is a top 10 defensive defenseman, with a stellar contract.
Vanecek is a cap match move.
And the devils need signed Rhd prospects in Ahl that need time to develop.
Novak is UFA as well. And a fourth line Center or wing that any team won't pay much for. Unless it is a trade and retain deal
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As you can tell my favorite trade is with Anaheim. Thus the players in my lineup and not on ltir
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
Sounds like you're not getting a goalie then


GMs talking about tight caps,selling goalies publicly through media, saying they aren’t buying goalies, saying they are only looking at backups, calling our GM out by name on radio, saying they are happy with their goalies, complaining on air how hard it is to sell a goalie.
It simple supply vs demand: supply is going up and demand is going down!
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21 févr. à 11 h 28
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Picks included in retention only deals


So what is your offer for Gibson & Jones then?
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GMs talking about tight caps,selling goalies publicly through media, saying they aren’t buying goalies, saying they are only looking at backups, calling our GM out by name on radio, saying they are happy with their goalies, complaining on air how hard it is to sell a goalie.
It simple supply vs demand: supply is going up and demand is going down!


That is one of the most wild sentences available to man. Flames don't need to move a goalie, Canucks trade is borderline psychopathic and I would assume just a throw in as a joke for Hughes, I bet Saros re-ups in Nashville, they are also close enough to the wildcard that any trade would probably come in the off season and the Ducks have no desperation to move off of Gibson. The team trading the goalie usually doesn't benefit from a deal as much as the team receiving the goalie so unless they're backed into a corner and need to make a move, no one is moving their starter for a middling return.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
So what is your offer for Gibson & Jones then?


Pkg is in the description
21 févr. à 11 h 45
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Holtz + Vanecek for each

Whoever bites first gets the deal
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Pkg is in the description


You already said that and then you said there’s ‘picks for retention’ so I’m trying to see what your offer is For John Gibson and Max Jones

It isn’t that hard man
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Quoting: neo115joe
Gross is an UFA, but could be kept at a low avv, similar to what nj did with Lazar.
Siegenthaler is a top 10 defensive defenseman, with a stellar contract.
Vanecek is a cap match move.
And the devils need signed Rhd prospects in Ahl that need time to develop.
Novak is UFA as well. And a fourth line Center or wing that any team won't pay much for. Unless it is a trade and retain deal


Siegenthaler is what he is, but he doesn't add much value for Nashville because there's a log jam on the Left side of their defense preventing younger guys from getting in the lineup to prove they belong in the NHL. Adding Siegenthaler doesn't help the situation so he doesn't add a lot of value for Nashville.
Vanecek I understand as a cap move but adding Schmid is unnecessary and again doesn't add value because Nashville doesn't need goaltenders.
Novak has 28 points in 45 games this year. Which would be 6th on the devils ahead of offensive dynamos Dawson Mercer and Alexander Holtz. So don't call him a fourth liner that teams won't pay much for, his price probably starts with a 1st, but I'm guessing Nashville won't be trading him and will try to resign him.

This whole post just shows you don't watch hockey outside of New Jersey and overvalue your players, which is fine, but do a little research first on other teams.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
You already said that and then you said there’s ‘picks for retention’ so I’m trying to see what your offer is For John Gibson and Max Jones

It isn’t that hard man


Siegenthaler (3.4mil)
Vanecek (3.4 mil)
Scmhid (.9mil)
1 of 3 of these Casey/Gritsyuk/Clarke
1 of 3 of Edwards/Stillman/Misyul
And either 25/26 2nd rd pick
This is fair
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Siegenthaler is what he is, but he doesn't add much value for Nashville because there's a log jam on the Left side of their defense preventing younger guys from getting in the lineup to prove they belong in the NHL. Adding Siegenthaler doesn't help the situation so he doesn't add a lot of value for Nashville.
Vanecek I understand as a cap move but adding Schmid is unnecessary and again doesn't add value because Nashville doesn't need goaltenders.
Novak has 28 points in 45 games this year. Which would be 6th on the devils ahead of offensive dynamos Dawson Mercer and Alexander Holtz. So don't call him a fourth liner that teams won't pay much for, his price probably starts with a 1st, but I'm guessing Nashville won't be trading him and will try to resign him.

This whole post just shows you don't watch hockey outside of New Jersey and overvalue your players, which is fine, but do a little research first on other teams.


Did the research still think Novak would be on the fourth line In nj. He ain't better the cpt, hughes, or Haula. Elevated stats based on better line mates, Is why this year his numbers look much better
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Holtz + Vanecek for each

Whoever bites first gets the deal


I don't think trading holtz is necessary and love how he is developing.
Siegenthaler (3.4mil)
Vanecek (3.4 mil)
Scmhid (.9mil)
1 of 3 of these Casey/Gritsyuk/Clarke
1 of 3 of Edwards/Stillman/Misyul
And either 25/26 2nd rd pick if salary is retained gets it done.
Mercer is an iron man and untouchable.
Holtz looking like a young Toffoli who is starting to find his grove and should also be untouchable
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I don't think trading holtz is necessary and love how he is developing.
Siegenthaler (3.4mil)
Vanecek (3.4 mil)
Scmhid (.9mil)
1 of 3 of these Casey/Gritsyuk/Clarke
1 of 3 of Edwards/Stillman/Misyul
And either 25/26 2nd rd pick if salary is retained gets it done.


I would rather keep Siegenthaler at his contract.
Wingers are easier to replace.
And by sending Holtz, we would send 1-2 pieces not 5.
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Vancouver has zero reason to move either Demko or Hughes
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I would rather keep Siegenthaler at his contract.
Wingers are easier to replace.
And by sending Holtz, we would send 1-2 pieces not 5.


Siegenthaler is expendable thanks to bahl's progression.
Give Bahl, Siegenthaler's contract in off-season
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Quoting: theleano1
Vancouver has zero reason to move either Demko or Hughes


Oh I know that was trolling at my best, and a pipedream.
This would actually be my aggressive pkg:
Timo Meier
Siegenthaler (3.4mil)
Vanecek (3.4 mil) or Scmhid (.9mil)
2 of 3 Casey/Gritsyuk/Clarke
1 of 3 Stillman/Edwards/Misyul
And 2 1st rd picks
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Quoting: neo115joe
Siegenthaler is expendable thanks to bahl's progression.
Give Bahl, Siegenthaler's contract in off-season


Bahl has not progressed enough to take that risk. He’s really struggled at times this year
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Siegenthaler is expendable thanks to bahl's progression.
Give Bahl, Siegenthaler's contract in off-season


Bahl has been terrible. The puck control, movement is a problem. He is the guy we need to upgrade more than any.
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Quoting: neo115joe
Oh I know that was trolling at my best, and a pipedream.
This would actually be my aggressive pkg:
Timo Meier
Siegenthaler (3.4mil)
Vanecek (3.4 mil) or Scmhid (.9mil)
2 of 3 Casey/Gritsyuk/Clarke
1 of 3 Stillman/Edwards/Misyul
And 2 1st rd picks


Meier is arguably a cap dump considering his contract/production at this point. If you want Quinn and Demko it starts with 2 of Hischier/Nemec/L Hughes
 
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