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Strome Mantha and Pacioretty

Créé par: Caniac2000
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 19 févr. 2024
Publié: 19 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Non
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 59
Saison restante: 31%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 82 038 909 $
Transactions
CAR
WSH
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  3. Unger Sörum, Felix
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $82 316 396 $450 000 $2 500 000 $1 183 604 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 000 000 $614 583 $ (Bonis de performance2 000 000 $$2M)
AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $2 599 764 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
894 167 $274 770 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $2 381 510 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 000 000 $1 536 458 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $921 875 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $1 382 813 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $1 481 146 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Capitals de Washington
0 $0 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $1 659 375 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 900 000 $891 146 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $234 310 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $1 628 646 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $1 622 500 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $614 583 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $2 381 510 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $1 236 849 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $234 310 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $1 613 281 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 675 000 $514 714 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $553 125 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $234 310 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 400 000 $1 044 792 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 400 000 $737 500 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $460 938 $
G
UFA - 1

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19 févr. à 23 h 27
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Value is fine but Caps aren't trading Strome.
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20 févr. à 10 h 51
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Value is fine but Caps aren't trading Strome.


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20 févr. à 11 h 6
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from what I've heard, I don't think the canes would trade some of their top prospects in a "win now" move. seems like theyd rather be perpetual playoff challengers than rebuild and risk having to be bad for a few years. if they were to go for rentals id be very surprised if they got more than 1.
20 févr. à 11 h 34
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from what I've heard, I don't think the canes would trade some of their top prospects in a "win now" move. seems like theyd rather be perpetual playoff challengers than rebuild and risk having to be bad for a few years. if they were to go for rentals id be very surprised if they got more than 1.


This is wrong. They will happily move prospects for guys with term, that is why Strome is the big attraction here. They won't pay big prices for rentals because it's dumb. Mortgaging the future of the organization for one or two players that may or may not make a difference isn't worth it. But at the deadline in the past, they've shown a willingness to pay big prices for players that they would be in control with. Look at Trocheck and Skjei, guys that they paid through the nose for, but had term. They were willing to go after Meier who was an RFA, Tkachuk and his 8 year extension. They will pay the price for something that's worth it, but the Canes know when to walk away and won't get sucked into a bidding war. They're savvy, not content
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20 févr. à 12 h 14
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I think this is one of those trades where the value is fair, but it would take an overpay to get him out of Washington.
20 févr. à 12 h 22
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This is wrong. They will happily move prospects for guys with term, that is why Strome is the big attraction here. They won't pay big prices for rentals because it's dumb. Mortgaging the future of the organization for one or two players that may or may not make a difference isn't worth it. But at the deadline in the past, they've shown a willingness to pay big prices for players that they would be in control with. Look at Trocheck and Skjei, guys that they paid through the nose for, but had term. They were willing to go after Meier who was an RFA, Tkachuk and his 8 year extension. They will pay the price for something that's worth it, but the Canes know when to walk away and won't get sucked into a bidding war. They're savvy, not content


Yeah thats why I specified a "win now" move. Which is what 2/3 of that deal is. also, if they wanted pacioretty they wouldve re-signed him and not wasted picks/prospects.

On strome, is he really that big of an attraction? Drury has the same points per 60 this season and hes not even on the power play. I'd imagine canes could toss him a better contract than strome's and be better off sticking with him. Out of curiosity, how are you breaking down these values? Like, are you saying strome is drury plus a pick and the rentals are each worth a prospect and a pick?
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Yeah thats why I specified a "win now" move. Which is what 2/3 of that deal is. also, if they wanted pacioretty they wouldve re-signed him and not wasted picks/prospects.

On strome, is he really that big of an attraction? Drury has the same points per 60 this season and hes not even on the power play. I'd imagine canes could toss him a better contract than strome's and be better off sticking with him. Out of curiosity, how are you breaking down these values? Like, are you saying strome is drury plus a pick and the rentals are each worth a prospect and a pick?


Mantha and Pacioretty, for me, don't have enough value to matter in this. Pacioretty's worth maybe a 4th. Mantha, with retention, maybe a 2nd. That's more so the value is closer. Strome's the big attraction here. He's putting up similar P/60 to Drury on a team that is FAR more inept with less talent around him. The ageing Ovechkin and rotating cast on the other side isn't exactly a call for success. Putting him between two offensively talented wingers like Carolina can do is a great cure for the second line center spot. He's also got term, meaning it's more likely than a rental
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