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Leafs get Parayko

Créé par: McJoe7
Publié: 14 févr. à 15 h 7
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 64/192 (33%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Rangers de New YorkRangers de New York

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---010------
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---001------
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bertuzzi, TylerBlues de St-LouisLNH50%2 750 000 $011---5061521--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial5 178 333 $2145633213
Variation-2 750 000 $1110-1-2
Final2 428 333 $ (↓)22 (↑)46 (↑)64 (↑)31 (↓)11 (↓)61521

Logo de Blues de St-LouisBlues de St-Louis

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Parayko, ColtonBlues de St-LouisLNH-2 166 667 $011---5291120--
Bertuzzi, TylerBlues de St-LouisLNH50%916 666 $011---5061521--
Toropchenko, AlexeyBlues de St-LouisLNH-416 667 $011---529413--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bertuzzi, TylerMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-1 833 333 $011---5061521--
Liljegren, TimothyMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-466 667 $011---34279--
Minten, FraserExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoJunior-0 $001---4000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---010------
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---001------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial267 614 $2347683811
Variation1 200 000 $-1-10121
Final1 467 614 $ (↑)22 (↓)46 (↓)684 (↑)10 (↑)12 (↑)-16-8-24

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

Transaction simultanéeStatut initialNouveau statutImpact sur la masse salarialeFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Lagesson, WilliamLNHMineures-775 000 $-1-----------
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bertuzzi, TylerMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-5 500 000 $011---5061521--
Liljegren, TimothyMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-1 400 000 $011---34279--
Minten, FraserExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoJunior-0 $001---4000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Parayko, ColtonBlues de St-LouisLNH-6 500 000 $011---5291120--
Toropchenko, AlexeyBlues de St-LouisLNH-1 250 000 $011---529413--
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 224 166 $2447622315
Variation-75 000 $-10-1-1-11
Final1 149 166 $ (↓)23 (↓)4761 (↓)1 (↓)2 (↓)16 (↑)10-73
14 févr. à 15 h 9
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I thought of this in another thread, I think this is close to the way the Leafs would be getting Parayko. Parayko is good, but with 7 years at 6.5 left, that deal is a slight negative to his value. Blues get a young NHLer, a 1st, a prospect, and a couple extra picks for eating salary on Bertuzzi and flipping him to the Rangers.

Bertuzzi has a no move and Parayko has a no trade so that could hurt both of those players moving. It might be a slight overpay from the Rangers for Bertuzzi, but with retention I bet that's what it costs.
14 févr. à 16 h 24
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lmaooooooo
14 févr. à 17 h 44
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Noooope.
15 févr. à 9 h 54
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Noooope.


I'm assuming the Blues don't trade Parayko. I just think if it does happen, its a package kind of like this one. Blues are getting 4 draft picks, including a 1st, the reigning captain of Canada's world junior team who projects as a middle 6 center as early as next season, a right shot D who has a chance to still be a 2nd pair guy and is an RFA. If a Parayko trade happens, that's a haul.

I don't think the Blues SHOULD trade Parayko though lol.
15 févr. à 13 h 59
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I'm assuming the Blues don't trade Parayko. I just think if it does happen, its a package kind of like this one. Blues are getting 4 draft picks, including a 1st, the reigning captain of Canada's world junior team who projects as a middle 6 center as early as next season, a right shot D who has a chance to still be a 2nd pair guy and is an RFA. If a Parayko trade happens, that's a haul.

I don't think the Blues SHOULD trade Parayko though lol.



Nah, dude. The Blues won't want a deluge of picks eating up the value. They would want nothing to do with Bertuzzi. And you're really selling those values on the other two. This would not get anyone Parayko, let alone two more players. Other than the 24 1st, which can be used to trade up, nothing is of very much interest. And trading Parayko would demolish the defense. To rubble. With no replacement in sight. That package might seem like a haul for you, the Blues would turn their nose up at it because its nothing they actually need + now they also have one of the hardest holes to adequately fill in the league, 1RD.

Real talk: the Leafs do not have the trade assets to get Parayko. Not even close. There's no great coveted prospects that fit needs, no young NHL replacement type, no cap space to eat, no super high draft pick, the guys we'd love to dump won't waive for Toronto... it's all a rich tapestry. The Oilers, for instance, are better equipped by a considerable margin. And Colt might actually waive to play there, hypothetically.

But yes, the Blues have no reason to trade Parayko. We agree there, and I cannot help but appreciate when someone understands that.
21 févr. à 13 h 17
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Nah, dude. The Blues won't want a deluge of picks eating up the value. They would want nothing to do with Bertuzzi. And you're really selling those values on the other two. This would not get anyone Parayko, let alone two more players. Other than the 24 1st, which can be used to trade up, nothing is of very much interest. And trading Parayko would demolish the defense. To rubble. With no replacement in sight. That package might seem like a haul for you, the Blues would turn their nose up at it because its nothing they actually need + now they also have one of the hardest holes to adequately fill in the league, 1RD.

Real talk: the Leafs do not have the trade assets to get Parayko. Not even close. There's no great coveted prospects that fit needs, no young NHL replacement type, no cap space to eat, no super high draft pick, the guys we'd love to dump won't waive for Toronto... it's all a rich tapestry. The Oilers, for instance, are better equipped by a considerable margin. And Colt might actually waive to play there, hypothetically.

But yes, the Blues have no reason to trade Parayko. We agree there, and I cannot help but appreciate when someone understands that.


Do the Oilers have the pieces to get Parayko? I guess its Broberg really. None of the Oilers top prospects are as good as Minten or Cowan.

Where I will somewhat disagree with you is the idea of trading one of the guys. I don't think the Blues are going anywhere with a top 4 of Parayko, Krug, Faulk, and Leddy, they're locked into those 4 guys, and I don't know that any of Tucker, Kessel, Perunovich or any of their prospects are coming to steal those jobs anytime soon. All 4 of those guys have no-trades, Faulk and Parayko both wear letters and Krug already exercised his no-trade. Trading one of them would be smart. But trading them for a collection of stuff you could flip later probably isn't the right plan either.

There are a lot of IFs in my trade offer and maybe its close to correct value, but it doesn't really make sense for the Blues.
21 févr. à 14 h 4
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Not bad. Feel like Parayko will never be what he used to be so it's likely him and Toro don't contribute to a playoff run as much as a rental like Sean Walker + Tyler bertuzzi would. Don't really see how Paraykos contract doesn't become a huge anchor unless they also dumped Kampf or Reaves for someone more worth their cap hit. Fraser Minten with an ELC is too valuable for the cap strapped leafs so imo leafs would decline this but I like the value for blues
 
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