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Hanifin Colorado Tanev Vancouver

Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 7 févr. 2024
Publié: 7 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Non
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 71
Saison restante: 37%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 84 134 665 $
Description
Trade Hanifin to Colorado for Samuel Girard, Jean-Luc Foudy, Jeremy Hazel, 1st round pick 2024 and conditional 4th round pick 2025
Condition: 2025 4th round pick will turn to 2025 3rd round pick if Colorado advances to 2024 Western Conference finals

Trade Chris Tanev to Vancouver for Ian Cole and conditional 2nd round pick 2025
Condition: 2025 2nd round pick will turn to 2025 1st round pick if Vancouver advances to 2024 Stanley Cup Final

Lineup After trades
Huberdeau/Sharangovich/Kuzmenko
Zary/Kadri/Pospisil
Mangiapane/Backlund/Coleman
Pelletier/Rooney/Duehr

Girard/Andersson
Kylington/Weegar
Cole/Pachal

Markstrom/Vladar

Scratches (for now): Greer, Gilbert, Oesterle
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Foudy, Jean-Luc
  2. Girard, Samuel
  3. Hanzel, Jeremy [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
2025 4th round pick is conditional.
2025 4th round pick will turn to 2025 3rd round pick if Colorado advances to 2024 Western Conference finals
2.
CGY
  1. Cole, Ian
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
2nd round pick is conditional.
Condition: 2025 2nd round pick will turn to 2025 1st round pick if Vancouver advances to 2024 Stanley Cup Final
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 163 161 $0 $212 500 $336 839 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
10 500 000 $3 882 813 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 100 000 $1 146 354 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 500 000 $2 033 854 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $319 253 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $2 588 542 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
775 000 $286 589 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $1 811 979 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $1 978 385 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 800 000 $2 144 792 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $319 253 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 300 000 $480 729 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
825 000 $305 078 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
855 833 $316 480 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $1 848 958 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $1 682 552 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $2 218 750 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $924 479 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 250 000 $2 311 198 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 200 000 $813 542 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $1 109 375 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
775 000 $286 589 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
925 000 $342 057 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $281 966 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $281 966 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $850 521 $ (1 150 000 $$1M425 260 $$425K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1

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11 févr. à 16 h 33
#26
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Quoting: westleysnipez
The reported ask from the Flames camp is a 2nd+, Raty is worth a 2nd+ on his own, he's a top-rated prospect.

You'll likely get a 2nd + c-tier prospect, or if you're retaining, a 1st + c-tier prospect

The Flames want a decent Player or Prospect back in addition to the Pick, so something better than a C-Tier and given the interest and demand for his services, I’m certain they’ll get it
11 févr. à 19 h 24
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The Flames want a decent Player or Prospect back in addition to the Pick, so something better than a C-Tier and given the interest and demand for his services, I’m certain they’ll get it


According to all the reports, they're asking for a prospect or a roster player, if the Flames were wanting something more than a C-Iter prospect, it would have been specified as "A top prospect" or "a middle-six/top-six roster player," no reports have. You were wrong about the Zadorov and Lindholm trades, you're wrong about this one, too. Listen to the reports. No one has been willing to trade a 2nd + C-Tier prospect, most of the reports are teams wanting to just deal the 2nd to Calgary. We'll see as we get closer to the deadline whether teams are willing to increase their offers or if the Flames just let Tanev walk in July.
11 févr. à 19 h 36
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Quoting: westleysnipez
According to all the reports, they're asking for a prospect or a roster player, if the Flames were wanting something more than a C-Iter prospect, it would have been specified as "A top prospect" or "a middle-six/top-six roster player," no reports have. You were wrong about the Zadorov and Lindholm trades, you're wrong about this one, too. Listen to the reports. No one has been willing to trade a 2nd + C-Tier prospect, most of the reports are teams wanting to just deal the 2nd to Calgary. We'll see as we get closer to the deadline whether teams are willing to increase their offers or if the Flames just let Tanev walk in July.

LOL - Get outta here, you don’t have a clue my friend. I was off on Zadorov because of the timing and a 3rd + 5th isn’t terribly far off from the 2nd UNRETAINED I was predicting

I don’t remember proposing much on Lindholm, so not sure how I could have been wrong there

You know how much demand and interest there is for Tanev right!? And that’s he’s been #1/2/3 on all Trade Boards

We shall see, but I guarantee they = Hanifin & Tanev either extend or get shipped out by the TDL. Conroy isn’t interested in another Johnny Gaudreau fiasco and take those “Reports” with a grain of salt. All these Hockey People/Insiders/Journalists have Quotas to fill, Click Bait to Write and Viewers to Attract and Entertain so write up whatever Rumors and Scenarios they see fit
13 févr. à 15 h 23
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LOL - Get outta here, you don’t have a clue my friend. I was off on Zadorov because of the timing and a 3rd + 5th isn’t terribly far off from the 2nd UNRETAINED I was predicting

I don’t remember proposing much on Lindholm, so not sure how I could have been wrong there

You know how much demand and interest there is for Tanev right!? And that’s he’s been #1/2/3 on all Trade Boards

We shall see, but I guarantee they = Hanifin & Tanev either extend or get shipped out by the TDL. Conroy isn’t interested in another Johnny Gaudreau fiasco and take those “Reports” with a grain of salt. All these Hockey People/Insiders/Journalists have Quotas to fill, Click Bait to Write and Viewers to Attract and Entertain so write up whatever Rumors and Scenarios they see fit


I do have a clue, I predicted the Zadorov trade value and Lindholm. Tanev unretained is a 2nd +

I do understand the interest in Tanev, I'm saying that this is the price teams are willing to pay. Tanev is 34 and a UFA. Teams last season were paying a 1st + 3rd for mid-20s RFA defensemen with an extra year left. The idea that you think you can get as much value as that for Tanev is ridiculous. A 2nd + (or a late 1st if retained or a team doesn't have a 2nd) is the value of Tanev.
13 févr. à 15 h 31
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Quoting: westleysnipez
I do have a clue, I predicted the Zadorov trade value and Lindholm. Tanev unretained is a 2nd +

I do understand the interest in Tanev, I'm saying that this is the price teams are willing to pay. Tanev is 34 and a UFA. Teams last season were paying a 1st + 3rd for mid-20s RFA defensemen with an extra year left. The idea that you think you can get as much value as that for Tanev is ridiculous. A 2nd + (or a late 1st if retained or a team doesn't have a 2nd) is the value of Tanev.

I’m saying a 2nd + B Prospect/Player OR a late 1st UNRETAINED. With retention there’ll be an extra piece and a bidding war could force a clear over pay like Chiarot got

We’re pretty much saying the same thing other than you think it’ll be crappier secondary piece and I’m saying it’ll have to be something more promising to become or is already NHL Caliber
13 févr. à 17 h 3
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Quoting: KingofRnR
I’m saying a 2nd + B Prospect/Player OR a late 1st UNRETAINED. With retention there’ll be an extra piece and a bidding war could force a clear over pay like Chiarot got

We’re pretty much saying the same thing other than you think it’ll be crappier secondary piece and I’m saying it’ll have to be something more promising to become or is already NHL Caliber


You claimed the same bidding war would affect Zadorov, it didn't.

Teams aren't willing to pay that much for Tanev. You're not getting a 2nd + B prospect. I doubt Calgary gets a 1st unless they're taking salary back, A team like Toronto would have to be very desperate.
13 févr. à 17 h 36
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You claimed the same bidding war would affect Zadorov, it didn't.

Teams aren't willing to pay that much for Tanev. You're not getting a 2nd + B prospect. I doubt Calgary gets a 1st unless they're taking salary back, A team like Toronto would have to be very desperate.

Zadorov didn’t make it to the Trade Deadline either did he

Flames Ownership will make TOR pay extra. They have no reason to be friendly with or help out Treliving. TOR is desperate but doesn’t have much to offer and of course Tanev would need to be retained on to fetch a 1st
 
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