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Habs using their roster spots to get some more picks

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2024
Publié: 2 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Armia, Joel (1 700 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Caps save 6m for 2 years and gain a decent 3rd line RW

The cost is a pick swap so WSH pick is around the 12-15 range, WPG pick is 25-30 range. (The price to move up is usually 2 2nd rounders) Armia could be removed or replaced with Pearson or Harvey Pinard
2.
NJD
  1. Allen, Jake (1 925 000 $ retained)
  2. Xhekaj, Arber
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Devils get their goalie and young 3rd pairing gritty Dman while the Habs get a 2nd line winger potential prospect
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $77 399 583 $1 170 000 $5 102 500 $6 100 417 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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2 févr. à 15 h 14
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Don't see NJD doing that.

Kusnetsov trade is interresting
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Would rather just send a mid pick for Allen, if anything.
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Devils tell you to come back with meaningful assets.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Would rather just send a mid pick for Allen, if anything.


What if i change the 3rd to a 2025 2nd?
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What if i change the 3rd to a 2025 2nd?


Trying to sell 4 dimes for a dollar
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What if i change the 3rd to a 2025 2nd?


What if NJD offers Graeme Clarke Chase Kevin bahl and a pair of 2nds for Kaiden Guhle
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Devils tell you to come back with meaningful assets.


If i were to change the 3rd to a 2nd, it would equal a late 1st together. a late 1st and Xhekaj and is about the most youd get for him. Kinda like the Newhook trade but instead of a late 1st and 2nd, Xhekaj becomes the 2nd
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What if NJD offers Graeme Clarke Chase Kevin bahl and a pair of 2nds for Kaiden Guhle


Oh yeah i forgot, you think Holtz is worth Guhle. Holtz is closer to Newhook than Guhle

And i would take a package for Newhook. You could even remove Bahl and id do it
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Quoting: JeffGorton
If i were to change the 3rd to a 2nd, it would equal a late 1st together. a late 1st and Xhekaj and is about the most youd get for him. Kinda like the Newhook trade but instead of a late 1st and 2nd, Xhekaj becomes the 2nd


Except we don’t want Xhekaj for a 2nd. I’d rather play Bahl.

And because holtz has 2 years left on his ELC, has been much more productive than Newhook, and with much higher draft pedigree.

If holtz is in the same spot in 2 years when he’s an RFA, call us about that 1st+2nd

Guhle for Holtz+3rd
Montembault+1st for Holtz+3rd
Dach+1st for Holtz
Newhook+1st for Holtz+3rd
Slaf for Holtz+1st


Xhekaj may get some stupid GM to bite on a guy who has quite frankly shown he isn’t an NHL caliber hockey player because of intangibles. Won’t be Fitzy.

What the devils need: defensively sound, puck moving Dmen who is going to help us give up less goals on the penalty kill.

Xhekaj is bad defensively, not a great puck mover, who takes a boatload of penalties while not contributing on the kill.

If we plug Xhekaj into our lineup that forces Luke Hughes onto the PK, which we will be on a lot more be Xhekaj can’t stay out of the box

If I wanted what Xhekaj brings I’d bring back Brendan smith. He is at least an elite penalty killer.
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Oh yeah i forgot, you think Holtz is worth Guhle. Holtz is closer to Newhook than Guhle

And i would take a package for Newhook. You could even remove Bahl and id do it


Call us in 2 years if holtz hasn’t developed and we’ll trade you for his RFA rights then.

Pair of 2nds+Clarke for Newhook it is.


-Long term defensively sound option at 3C who can kill penalties
-long term defensively sound puck moving LD (number 3 type option) who can kill penalties
-long term franchise goalie

Those are the type of assets that are of interest for Holtz.

Again, holtz would lead Montreal in 5v5 goals and points by a significant margin.

He scores points and goals 5v5 at a rate of about Cole Caufield and Nick Suzuki. Combined.
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Oh yeah i forgot, you think Holtz is worth Guhle. Holtz is closer to Newhook than Guhle

And i would take a package for Newhook. You could even remove Bahl and id do it


Montreal has made the Guhle for Holtz move twice before.

Sergachev for Drouin
Romanov for Dach
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Oh yeah i forgot, you think Holtz is worth Guhle. Holtz is closer to Newhook than Guhle

And i would take a package for Newhook. You could even remove Bahl and id do it


We just don’t have any reason to do the deal for a sum-of-the-parts type of deal. Holtz is performing well and still has plenty of time on his ELC. A team can stack up as many mid round picks, back-up goalies and tweener dmen they want. It will be very hard to get Holtz out of NJ without giving up someone that hurts to give up.

Guhle and Holtz are same age, have similar value, and Habs fans have noted their depth at LHD, which is why he came up.

Maybe try LAK, who sound like they may be using Kaliyev as a trade chip.
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Caps decline. That pick may be in the top 10.
 
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