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Créé par: Coachchippy
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 28 janv. 2024
Publié: 28 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Chytil officially shut down for the year. Terrible news. Now the Rangers need to find a 3C and 1RW to have a chance at making a deep run.

My goal with this ACGM was to avoid giving up the 2024 1st. The Rangers should be scouting young centers to draft this year given Chytil's uncertain future. I think Chytil will be back next year and is a great top six C, but they need to start filling the cupboard again. If they don't do this and Chytil sustains another injury and has to retire, the upcoming young core (Lafreniere, Kakko, Perrault, Cuylle, Othmann, etc) will be left without any viable top six centers. Edstrom, BMB, Rempe are all decent and will have important roles, but are not replacement level for Chytil.
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Novak, Thomas
Détails additionnels:
Novak re-signs in NY over the summer. If Chytil is unable to return, he remains #3C. If Chytil does return, he can replace Goodrow as #4C when Goodrow is inevitably bought out over the summer
NSH
  1. Edström, Adam
  2. Korczak, Ryder
Détails additionnels:
I personally would prefer Monahan but the asking price might be too high. I don't want to give up the 2024 1st. I would consider giving up the 2025 1st, but I don't know if Montreal would accept that deal (with the recent news that MTL/NYR front offices don't get along and MTL will make a Monahan trade hard on NYR, including asking for Gabe Perrault which is a no-go)
2.
NYR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Oilers get some bottom six reinforcement for extremely cheap. Brodzinski has 11 points in 30 games this year playing about 11 mins/night. Knoblauch was his coach in Hartford and he was the captain in Hartford.
3.
OTT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
No retention necessary = no 1st
4.
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
ANY TEAM

This trade depends on if they think Jones will earn a full-time spot next year. He's arguably been better than KAM this year although the defensive pairing with Schneider is awful. He's too talented to be a healthy scratch for 80% of the season and the Rangers should move on from him ASAP if they don't see him in their future plans
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28 janv. à 16 h 33
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Ottawa's getting a 1st one way or another
28 janv. à 16 h 33
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Why would anyone want to pay a 2nd for Jones?
28 janv. à 16 h 36
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Ottawa's getting a 1st one way or another


Honestly doubt it. If he didn't have NTC and they could ship him wherever they wanted, I bet they'd find someone who'd pay a 1st. But he gets to choose where he ends up, which means that team has the leverage
28 janv. à 16 h 36
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Why would anyone want to pay a 2nd for Jones?


He's a very good, young, offensive dman.
28 janv. à 16 h 38
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Honestly doubt it. If he didn't have NTC and they could ship him wherever they wanted, I bet they'd find someone who'd pay a 1st. But he gets to choose where he ends up, which means that team has the leverage


The leverage is that Ottawa is perfectly fine with re-signing him so you have to make it worthwhile for us to even trade him in the first place.
28 janv. à 16 h 40
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The leverage is that Ottawa is perfectly fine with re-signing him so you have to make it worthwhile for us to even trade him in the first place.


They're asking him to waive his NTC. They're not re signing him
28 janv. à 16 h 44
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Depth players don't typically return what you're asking, even if they're young and are perceived to have NHL potential. I'd imagine the most they could get for Brodzinski and Jones are a 4th and 3rd, respectively.
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28 janv. à 16 h 49
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He's a very good, young, offensive dman.


Then why doesn’t he play?
28 janv. à 16 h 51
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Then why doesn’t he play?


Because the Rangers have better options in Lindgren, K'Andre Miller, and Gustafsson. Although to me some of those are either questionable or shouldn't be in the Rangers' long term future plans.
28 janv. à 16 h 52
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They're asking him to waive his NTC. They're not re signing him


The GM literally just said that they're open to signing him. And they never asked him to waive his NTC.
28 janv. à 16 h 58
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Quoting: sens65
The GM literally just said that they're open to signing him. And they never asked him to waive his NTC.


I unserstand his position, but why wouldn't Tarasenko test FA? For the money he wants, can Ottawa afford him longer term? Wouldn't they be better off taking what they can (likely a 2nd and maybe a player) than obstinately holding out for a 1st and potentially losing him in FA for nothing?
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28 janv. à 16 h 59
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I unserstand his position, but why wouldn't Tarasenko test FA? For the money he wants, can Ottawa afford him longer term? Wouldn't they be better off taking what they can (likely a 2nd and maybe a player) than obstinately holding out for a 1st and potentially losing him in FA for nothing?


A 2nd doesn't really do anything for us in the short or long term. We'd rather take our chances with signing him.
28 janv. à 16 h 59
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Quoting: sens65
The GM literally just said that they're open to signing him. And they never asked him to waive his NTC.


Ok. Let's say that they don't ask him to waive and want to re-sign him.

Is there a reason you think Tarasenko is open to staying?

To me it's always looked like Vlad signed there for 2 reasons. A, it was a one-year prove it deal until the cap went up, and 5m was the best offer he got. B, Ottawa was supposed to make the jump to the playoffs this year given how close they got to a WC spot last year.

Now I'm not dissing the Senators by saying this. Just being truthful. It does not appear like they are going to make the playoffs this year. And I would venture a guess that the contending window is farther away than most people thought.

Has Tarasenko said or done something that = he wants to stay? I can understand Giroux wanting to be a Sen for the rest of his career given his ties to the area. But Tarasenko doesn't have those same ties. And IMO Tarasenko would rather ring/cup chase around the league for the next 3+ years.

IMO he gets moved to a contender. Whether that's the Rangers, LA, Florida, probably not Carolina given the stuff over the summer, Boston, I could go on. I'm not even saying this is guaranteed to be a NYR specific thing (although he did want to stay last year, we just had no $). But I without a doubt think he'll get traded to a contender.
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28 janv. à 17 h 1
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Quoting: sens65
A 2nd doesn't really do anything for us in the short or long term. We'd rather take our chances with signing him.


You could get the 2nd and still take your chances on resigning him as a UFA, while giving him a shot at a cup.
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28 janv. à 17 h 1
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A 2nd doesn't really do anything for us in the short or long term. We'd rather take our chances with signing him.


Who is "we"? If Tarasenko made it clear to the GM that he's not going to re-sign because he wants to chase a Cup, they would definitely take a 2nd rather than nothing
28 janv. à 17 h 2
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Who is "we"? If Tarasenko made it clear to the GM that he's not going to re-sign because he wants to chase a Cup, they would definitely take a 2nd rather than nothing


Except he hasn't done that and by all accounts loves being in Ottawa.
28 janv. à 17 h 5
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28 janv. à 17 h 5
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Except he hasn't done that and by all accounts loves being in Ottawa.


We will see. I bet he's a Ranger within 30 days
28 janv. à 17 h 10
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We will see. I bet he's a Ranger within 30 days


And I bet your 1st round pick will be owned by Ottawa.
28 janv. à 17 h 12
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And I bet your 1st round pick will be owned by Ottawa.


Well, it won't. Because the entire point is that if Vlad chooses NYR and NYR only they have no reason to give that up. ESPECIALLY if Ottawa doesn't retain anything, which they don't have to at this point....
28 janv. à 17 h 14
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Well, it won't. Because the entire point is that if Vlad chooses NYR and NYR only they have no reason to give that up. ESPECIALLY if Ottawa doesn't retain anything, which they don't have to at this point....


Ottawa would have no problem retaining. I literally said that Tarasenko would like to stay in Ottawa, he never said he wants to go to New York.
28 janv. à 17 h 34
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Ottawa would have no problem retaining. I literally said that Tarasenko would like to stay in Ottawa, he never said he wants to go to New York.


This is delusional. Tarasenko would rather be on a team that has a chance to win a cup than a team that's done playing in mid-April. Whether it's the Rangers or somewhere else. Like the other commenter said, they can trade him at the deadline and get something, and then re-sign him over the summer if they want.
28 janv. à 17 h 42
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Ottawa would have no problem retaining. I literally said that Tarasenko would like to stay in Ottawa, he never said he wants to go to New York.


Also no professional is going to ever outwardly say they hate playing in the city they're in, and that they want to go to another specific city. Tarasenko isn't a locker room plague like that. Why does Tarasenko want to stay in Ottawa according to your sources?
28 janv. à 18 h 1
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Also no professional is going to ever outwardly say they hate playing in the city they're in, and that they want to go to another specific city. Tarasenko isn't a locker room plague like that. Why does Tarasenko want to stay in Ottawa according to your sources?


Because he and his wife are enjoying the city and his kids are playing for the local junior hockey teams and they're doing well there.
28 janv. à 20 h 42
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NSH declines. If this is all NSH would get for Novak, they would likely rather just sign him. Only Korzack would be interesting as he is still developing, but I don't think Edstrom makes it out the AHL, even with NSH's lack of center strength.
 
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