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mega trade

Créé par: The_Rocket
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 24 janv. 2024
Publié: 24 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lindholm, Elias
11 212 500 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Lindholm, Elias (2 425 000 $ retained)
  2. Tanev, Christopher
Détails additionnels:
Orlov/hathaway trade from last offseason is the comparable
CGY
  1. Kuzmenko, Andrei
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
2.
VAN
CBJ
  1. Lindholm, Elias
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
retain additional 1212500
3.
VAN
  1. Duclair, Anthony (1 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de SJS
Logo de VAN
2025
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2026
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $79 817 917 $850 000 $0 $3 682 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Lindholm, Elias
1 212 500 $1 212 500 $
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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24 janv. à 18 h 8
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Wtf am I looking at.

Why would Van dump Lindy to Columbus instead of using him as your 2C for a playoff run?
24 janv. à 18 h 21
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Calgary is not accepting this deal.
How about removing Kuzmenko and trade Hoglander along with those draft picks in exchange for Lindholm and Tanev (Calgary retained 50% of both Lindholm and Tanev's contracts).
24 janv. à 18 h 21
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Quoting: Vancity2196
Calgary is not accepting this deal.
How about remove Kuzmenko and trade Hoglander along with those draft picks in exchange for Lindholm and Tanev (Calgary retained 50% of both Lindholm and Tanev's contracts).
24 janv. à 18 h 30
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Quoting: ReggieTheGoat
Wtf am I looking at.

Why would Van dump Lindy to Columbus instead of using him as your 2C for a playoff run?


its a salary retain
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24 janv. à 19 h 9
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Quoting: pmbrouillard
its a salary retain


I feel dumb. Read that wrong lol
24 janv. à 19 h 18
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Quoting: Vancity2196
Calgary is not accepting this deal.
How about removing Kuzmenko and trade Hoglander along with those draft picks in exchange for Lindholm and Tanev (Calgary retained 50% of both Lindholm and Tanev's contracts).


Calgary wouldn't accept that either. Hoglander is nothing special, just another small left shot winger which Calgary already has a lot of, most of which are either already better or are younger cost controlled for longer and have more potential. In spite of Vancouver fanboy claims to the contrary he's never done anything to show he's more than a meh bottom 6 player who can't even stay in the lineup.

As posted it'd be an overpay for Tanev alone and an underpay for Lindholm alone.
25 janv. à 12 h 11
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No interest in Kuzmenko and especially not for both Tanev and Lindholm, you need to give up someone who isn't a regular healthy scratch for the Flames to consider your offer.
25 janv. à 12 h 12
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Quoting: ReggieTheGoat
Wtf am I looking at.

Why would Van dump Lindy to Columbus instead of using him as your 2C for a playoff run?


yeah i dont really know what the easiest way to do a double retention trade is on cap friendly. this is how i normally do it
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25 janv. à 12 h 15
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Quoting: Ansabch12
No interest in Kuzmenko and especially not for both Tanev and Lindholm, you need to give up someone who isn't a regular healthy scratch for the Flames to consider your offer.


kuzmenko is just a cap dump. last deadline washington traded away orlov (with max retention) and hathaway for smith, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd. that is the comparable im using for this trade.

kuzmenko, even though he has been healthy scratched 4 times this year, is a better and younger player than smith, so at least calgary is recouping some kind of player in addition to the picks. but yeah, the main gain here for the flames is the picks
25 janv. à 12 h 18
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Quoting: The_Rocket
kuzmenko is just a cap dump. last deadline washington traded away orlov (with max retention) and hathaway for smith, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd. that is the comparable im using for this trade.

kuzmenko, even though he has been healthy scratched 4 times this year, is a better and younger player than smith, so at least calgary is recouping some kind of player in addition to the picks. but yeah, the main gain here for the flames is the picks


This isn't a similar situation, Lindholm is a great 2C and Tanev can easily play top 4 minutes, so the picks for both of them are not enough, you'd have to include a prospect or two to get both of them, especially with a max retention on Lindholm so overall the picks aren't enough for both of them and that offer gets easily outbid by anyone on the open market.
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Quoting: Ansabch12
This isn't a similar situation, Lindholm is a great 2C and Tanev can easily play top 4 minutes, so the picks for both of them are not enough, you'd have to include a prospect or two to get both of them, especially with a max retention on Lindholm so overall the picks aren't enough for both of them and that offer gets easily outbid by anyone on the open market.


orlov is a top pairing defenseman, hathaway a bottom 6 utility player.

lindholm a 2c on pace for like 50 points, tanev is 4th on the flames in defensive ice time per game

Orlov>Lindholm but Tanev>hathaway. i would say it is a good base as a comparison. the canucks are giving more here than what boston gave since kuzmenko>smith and the third round pick van is giving up is in this years draft, not 3 drafts form now
 
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