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Créé par: James_ick
Publié: 15 janv. à 16 h 26
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 94/192 (49%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Flames de CalgaryFlames de Calgary

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Tanev, ChristopherFlames de CalgaryLNH25%3 375 000 $011---40178--
Lindholm, EliasFlames de CalgaryLNH25%3 637 500 $011---4382028--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Myers, TylerCanucks de VancouverLNH-6 000 000 $011---4331518--
Woo, JettCanucks de VancouverMineures-0 $011---0000--
Höglander, NilsCanucks de VancouverLNH-1 100 000 $011---4112517--
Podkolzin, VasilyExempté du ballottageCanucks de VancouverMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---100------
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial4 605 167 $2245643710
Variation-87 500 $022101
Final4 517 667 $ (↓)2247 (↑)66 (↑)4 (↑)711 (↑)6-7-1

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Myers, TylerCanucks de VancouverLNH-6 000 000 $011---4331518--
Woo, JettCanucks de VancouverMineures-0 $011---0000--
Höglander, NilsCanucks de VancouverLNH-1 100 000 $011---4112517--
Podkolzin, VasilyExempté du ballottageCanucks de VancouverMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---100------
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Tanev, ChristopherFlames de CalgaryLNH25%3 375 000 $011---40178--
Lindholm, EliasFlames de CalgaryLNH25%3 637 500 $011---4382028--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial332 500 $2346683312
Variation87 500 $0-2-2-10-1
Final420 000 $ (↑)2344 (↓)66 (↓)2 (↓)311 (↓)-671
15 janv. à 16 h 38
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it is not the canucks are overpaying for a same skill defensman and a player they don't need at the moment
15 janv. à 16 h 39
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Not even close. That pile of trash might get Tanev alone but that's it. Myers is a cap dump, Woo, Hoglander and Podkolzin aren't worth much combined.
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15 janv. à 16 h 49
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Not even close. That pile of trash might get Tanev alone but that's it. Myers is a cap dump, Woo, Hoglander and Podkolzin aren't worth much combined.


Hoglander and Podkolzin are each worth an early 2nd/late 1st, same as Tanev. Myers is in to make salary work, which typically doesn’t cost anything at the deadline (look at Beauvillier in the Horvat deal as an example). Might need to upgrade Woo and the 4th to a slightly better singular piece, but a 1st, Hoglander/Podkolzin, and another piece for Lindholm is fair (again, look at the Horvat trade)

Also the “pile of trash” Hoglander has 12 goals this season compared to Lindholm’s 8. He’d be 4th on Calgary in goals
15 janv. à 18 h 1
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Quoting: MoxNix
Not even close. That pile of trash might get Tanev alone but that's it. Myers is a cap dump, Woo, Hoglander and Podkolzin aren't worth much combined.


While I argue this isn't trash, there is a lot of underwhelming pieces getting 2 legit top 4/top 6 guys.

Hoglander, 2024 first, Kuzmenko OR Myers(cap reasons), a top prospect or 2 in our system not named Wallinder, Lekkermaki, or Bruz.

Woo is probably at best a 6th rounder in value himself, Podz on a good day is a 3rd. The value just isn't there for the Flames on this one. Especially to a division rival, with using 2/3 retention slots.
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15 janv. à 23 h 17
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
While I argue this isn't trash, there is a lot of underwhelming pieces getting 2 legit top 4/top 6 guys.

Hoglander, 2024 first, Kuzmenko OR Myers(cap reasons), a top prospect or 2 in our system not named Wallinder, Lekkermaki, or Bruz.

Woo is probably at best a 6th rounder in value himself, Podz on a good day is a 3rd. The value just isn't there for the Flames on this one. Especially to a division rival, with using 2/3 retention slots.


i can barely make out what your saying.but i am wondering if you know anything about the canucks system,because if you think a high pick like Podkolzin,who is developing nicely,is only worth a 3rd pick,well you just shouldnt be commenting.
16 janv. à 1 h 23
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i can barely make out what your saying.but i am wondering if you know anything about the canucks system,because if you think a high pick like Podkolzin,who is developing nicely,is only worth a 3rd pick,well you just shouldnt be commenting.


He's not anywhere near where a 10th overall pick should be 4 years after draft year. He may crack a bottom 6 at best in his career. He should not be in the AHL anymore in his draft +4 year...
He's probably not even worth a 3rd right now, and it gets worse the older he gets and the less likely it is he cracks the NHL roster.
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16 janv. à 11 h 30
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
He's not anywhere near where a 10th overall pick should be 4 years after draft year. He may crack a bottom 6 at best in his career. He should not be in the AHL anymore in his draft +4 year...
He's probably not even worth a 3rd right now, and it gets worse the older he gets and the less likely it is he cracks the NHL roster.


ok you agree with moxnix the biggest canuck basher on here.podkolzin is 22 yrs old,and will be on the canucks 3rd line at the very worst,he is a good prospect.I am a canuck and flame fan.MoxNix is the biggest homer on here,and has never had a fair balanced take on here yet.but Hitagi Senpai you are the opposite,your supposed to be a canuck fan,but if you were Gm you would make Jimbo look like a genius.i am starting to think your just pretending to support the canucks,because you rarely make any sense for the good of the canucks.KID.
16 janv. à 13 h 51
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ok you agree with moxnix the biggest canuck basher on here.podkolzin is 22 yrs old,and will be on the canucks 3rd line at the very worst,he is a good prospect.I am a canuck and flame fan.MoxNix is the biggest homer on here,and has never had a fair balanced take on here yet.but Hitagi Senpai you are the opposite,your supposed to be a canuck fan,but if you were Gm you would make Jimbo look like a genius.i am starting to think your just pretending to support the canucks,because you rarely make any sense for the good of the canucks.KID.


Canucks fan and Canucks homer is different. Podz is far from being worth a late first or early second at this point in his career. He's a good 4th liner, a bad 3rd liner as his ceiling right now. Which is no where near what a 10th overall pick should have been... If Vancouver wanted a forward during that draft. Boldy, Caufield, and Krebs were all on the board still and taken shortly afterwards. Podz is a bust just accept that. Anyone without homer blinders will see that.
16 janv. à 14 h 12
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
Canucks fan and Canucks homer is different. Podz is far from being worth a late first or early second at this point in his career. He's a good 4th liner, a bad 3rd liner as his ceiling right now. Which is no where near what a 10th overall pick should have been... If Vancouver wanted a forward during that draft. Boldy, Caufield, and Krebs were all on the board still and taken shortly afterwards. Podz is a bust just accept that. Anyone without homer blinders will see that.


podkolzin was rushed so has developed slower.look at holloway in edm,and compare to someone developed properly like zary.Podkolzin is not a bust,hes big and will be a real good 3rd line winger,he is producing in the minors.i never said he was the best pick,but you have very little value on him,i would keep him.he is probably ready to come up now,but they have the 24 yr old karlsson as there 13th forward,because podkolzin is developing.im not a homer because i bash Moxnix for being one,he proposed Huberdeau for JT Miller with the canucks retaining.
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