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Not looking good for Jake

Créé par: gpmack95
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 10 janv. 2024
Publié: 10 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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PIT
  1. Borgen, William
  2. Tolvanen, Eeli
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
SEA
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Ruhwedel, Chad
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Teams reported interested were SEA VAN COL (probably more)

Guentzel extends with SEA
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  1. Smith, Reilly (1 750 000 $ retained)
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COL
  1. Nieto, Matt
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
4.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
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11 janv. à 10 h 8
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Quoting: JSEB93
That's understandable. Appreciate the response. I don't think it's too crazy to see Guentzel re-signing. Just throw him Carter's money, which would be 9.125mil, and I think he'd take it. I know we will point to Nylander's contract - but I honestly don't see Guentzel demanding 11mil+. Then you still have whatever the cap increase is to improve the rest of the team. Could he get 10+ on the open market, maybe, but it would be a new team and most likely a bad one that has a lot of cap space.

My view is if the Pens are where they are now at the deadline - you have to keep him. The Pens time is almost, if not already, over. So I don't think the Pens have the luxury of wasting a possible playoff season, which trading Guentzel would no doubt do. I don't see any scenario where you get an NHL player back in the trade that has this team competing for a playoff spot. In my opinion, I just think it's better to push for the playoffs, and then take your chances on re-signing Guentzel - as opposed to trading him, which basically ends your season, and then trying to regroup find a replacement in the offseason for next year.


I see what your saying for sure. I think it's going to come down whether Dubas thinks Guentzel will re-sign. It's hard for me to imagine that they don't have a sense of that right now. I know Guentzel's agent said that they want to know what the plan is for the team for the next 8 or so years and he mentioned that tough decisions might have to be made. That made me think it's up in the air, but there is definitely a possibility he doesn't re-sign. The tough part is do you want to sign with a bad team that will be good in 1-2 years and likely for the rest of the contract, or re-sign with a good team that will be the opposite, good for 1-2 years and bad for the rest.

As far as what would happen if we traded him there is definitely a chance the team would collapse. He is probably our second best player right now and it would be tough to overcome. I also think the key to this teams success is playing smart, structured hockey. The past few weeks that's been the difference. When were playing that way I think we are really tough to beat regardless of who is in the lineup. The style we play has been a bigger problem to me than anything lineup related. This team is prone to bad habits and falling back into the unorganized way where we give up tons of odd man rushes. If we can limit that and keep doing what we're doing then I think we have a shot to make some noise in playoffs.

As far as what I actually think will happen I don't know. This is a new regime and this is a position the team hasn't been in for a while. Having a big player due for a huge raise but knowing there's only 1-2 more years left of contending. I think it depends how the next few weeks go. Tonight will be a huge test. Vancouver is very fast and has an insane offense. If we can slow the game down and limit their chances I think that's a great sign going forward. If we can't that concerns me that we will struggle to maintain our structure against those types of teams in a 7 game series.
 
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