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Créé par: GrittyGucci

Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie

Date de création initiale: 10 janv. 2024

Publié: 10 janv. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Couple other details
- Poehling signs a 2 yr extension at 1.75-2 mil
- Tippet signs a 4 yr extension at 4.5 mil

Lightning Fans I just put a first in for a placeholder, what do you deem ample for the two players? A second - 3rd - some mid prospect would also suffice in that ballpark imo.

The Winnipeg trade is comprised like this:
Schimdt - Zihlkin - 4th for 6 mil in cap space
1st for walker/seeler

Oilers trade is based on the mindset they are all in, and broberg will not be apart of the run. I got the second for Frost now being valued for 1 mil, which can be great value with his playmaking ability.

Transactions

PHI

Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (TBL)

Détails additionnels:

To me, two teams that could trade for both (depending very much on playoff position) is winnipeg and tampa. If tampa finds itself third in the division or greater, I can see them making this move. Likely one last hoorah with stamkos, especially given how the contract negotiations have gone. But of the two, this is the least likely.

TBL

Walker 50% retained and Seeler

PHI

Schmidt, Nate
Zhilkin, Danil
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

This seems like the probable trade. Schimdt has been less than desired at his near 6 mil cap hit, but given the flyers status of a rebuilder, it wouldn't be the end of the world since he's on the books for another year. This would also given winnipeg a whopping 6 mil to work with this coming offseason. Schmidt in my eyes would take over a staal like role in the 24-25 season.

WPG

Seeler, Nick
Walker, Sean (1 325 000 $ retained)

PHI

Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (FLA)

FLA

Staal, Marc

Détails additionnels:

Familiar with the system, good depth option.

PHI

Broberg, Philip
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)

EDM

Frost, Morgan (1 050 000 $ retained)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

I am unsure of the value, but I believe frost would slot in perfectly on the 3C with edmonton, and would match the high flying offensive style they have in contrast to philly. Broberg is thrown in because both players are in less than desirable situations, and the pick is due to the retention over a two year period.

Rachats de contrats

Anthony Deangelo: 1 666 667 $
Oskar Lindblom: 666 667 $
Ilya Bryzgalov: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Kevin Hayes: 3 571 428 $ (50%)
Sean Walker: 1 325 000 $ (50%)
Morgan Frost: 1 050 000 $ (50%)

Enfoui

Cal Petersen: 3 850 000 $ (5 000 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	86 638 762 $	1 187 500 $	1 307 500 $	-3 138 762 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Farabee, Joel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5	Couturier, Sean 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ C NMC UFA - 7	Konecny, Travis 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Tippett, Owen 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Poehling, Ryan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Foerster, Tyson 863 333 $863 333 $ AD RFA - 2
Atkinson, Cam 5 875 000 $5 875 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Cates, Noah 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ C, AG RFA - 2	Brink, Bobby 925 000 $925 000 $ (425 000 $$425K) AD RFA - 1
Deslauriers, Nicolas 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Laughton, Scott 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Hathaway, Garnet 2 375 000 $2 375 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
	Zhilkin, Danil 831 667 $831 667 $ C RFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
York, Cam 1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Sanheim, Travis 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 8	Hart, Carter 3 979 000 $3 979 000 $ G RFA - 1
Broberg, Philip 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG RFA - 1	Drysdale, Jamie 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ DD RFA - 3	Ersson, Samuel 859 167 $859 167 $ (32 500 $$32K) G RFA - 1
Zamula, Yegor 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Ristolainen, Rasmus 5 100 000 $5 100 000 $ DD UFA - 4
Schmidt, Nate 5 950 000 $5 950 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Ellis, Ryan 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DD UFA - 4

10 janv. à 9 h 52

Windjammer

Rejoint: juill. 2020

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No from Winnipeg. They have no need or use for either Flyer at that cost.

Winnipeg has no need to move Schmidt and nothing coming from Philly is worth giving up a 1st for

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10 janv. à 9 h 54

GrittyGucci

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: sept. 2023

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Fair, if dropping the 1st to a second and fifth make a difference to you? I just view Schmidt as a negative asset and value cap space for obvious reasons. Correct me if I am wrong on Schmidt.

10 janv. à 9 h 55

CanMerc

Rejoint: déc. 2023

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Jets Decline
We have zero need for either of those 2 players and we’re not trading a 1st for any deal that doesn’t return a player of need..2C
This trade is just bad for WPG

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10 janv. à 10 h 3

Windjammer

Rejoint: juill. 2020

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Quoting: GrittyGucci

Fair, if dropping the 1st to a second and fifth make a difference to you? I just view Schmidt as a negative asset and value cap space for obvious reasons. Correct me if I am wrong on Schmidt.

Schmidt's contract does make him a negative asset, but he's playing well and his cap hit doesn't hurt the Jets, so there is no reason to move him unless it is for an upgrade, which neither Flyer is.

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10 janv. à 10 h 11

CF18GM

Rejoint: mai 2021

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Quoting: GrittyGucci

Fair, if dropping the 1st to a second and fifth make a difference to you? I just view Schmidt as a negative asset and value cap space for obvious reasons. Correct me if I am wrong on Schmidt.

Disagree that Schmidt is a negative asset for the time being. WPG is not up against the cap and can even add at the TDL without moving Schmidt. As far as his play goes, he's been better as of late and I would honestly rather rely on him in the playoffs than either of our younger guys (Heinola/Chisholm).

Should definitely move him come offseason tho.

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10 janv. à 10 h 57

CanMerc

Rejoint: déc. 2023

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Quoting: CF18GM

I’d move him in a Lindholm deal, for cap space, but I also don’t see the reason to wait til the TDL to make trades… I’d deal for Lindholm now

10 janv. à 13 h 39

CF18GM

Rejoint: mai 2021

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Quoting: CanMerc

I’d move him in a Lindholm deal, for cap space, but I also don’t see the reason to wait til the TDL to make trades… I’d deal for Lindholm now

More cap space at TDL. It would allow WPG to deal only futures for Lindholm and keep the core players intact (i.e. won't have to move Schmidt for cap space).

10 janv. à 13 h 40

CanMerc

Rejoint: déc. 2023

Messages: 543

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Quoting: CF18GM

More cap space at TDL. It would allow WPG to deal only futures for Lindholm and keep the core players intact.

Schmidt is a core player, and doing the deal earlier gives the team more time to adjust to the change and build chemistry

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