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If Vancouver get Guentzel

Créé par: Dillpickle
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 4 janv. 2024
Publié: 4 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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It has been rumored that Vancouver might get Guentzel if the Penguins are sellers at the deadline
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PIT
  1. Hirose, Akito
  2. Podkolzin, Vasily
  3. Räty, Aatu
  4. Silovs, Arturs
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
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4 janv. à 14 h 27
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Guentzel would be nice but.. MASSIVE overpay here. Remove Silovs Podkolzin and a 3rd or 2nd.
4 janv. à 14 h 38
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Oooof!! Yeeouch! That's a lot for a UFA there....
4 janv. à 14 h 40
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no way keep what Van has good chemistry
4 janv. à 14 h 50
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Disclaimer: I don't know prospects very well.

Raty is the only prospects I can find on any list and he is the 4th or 5th prospects on Vancouver, a team ranked 21st in farm systems in the NHL.

I would say a 1st and two of these four, gets a trade done.
Tom Willander, Aatu Raty, Jonathan Lekkerimaki, Elias Pettersson

Some Van fans will think that is too much for a UFA. Generally, I would agree. But when that UFA is 2nd in the NHL in expected goals and has a points / 60 between Draisaitl and Rantanen, you're going to have to pay a lot.

Now if the Pens fall off and don't think they will make the playoffs the price would drop to something like:
1st, one of those guys above, a top 10 prospect (like Karlsson or Kudryavtsev), and Kuzmenko (for cap reasons).

I get that a lot of Vancouver fans will not like this post. But an elite player costs a lot.
4 janv. à 14 h 56
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no way keep what Van has good chemistry


The line of Kuzmenko-Pettersson-Mikheyev is one of the worst in the NHL this season. They have a 46% goal share (13 for, 15 against). Replacing Kuzmenko with Lafferty on that line turns it into an 83% (6 for, 1 against).

No line with Kuzmenko has a positive goal share.
4 janv. à 15 h 16
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Disclaimer: I don't know prospects very well.

Raty is the only prospects I can find on any list and he is the 4th or 5th prospects on Vancouver, a team ranked 21st in farm systems in the NHL.

I would say a 1st and two of these four, gets a trade done.
Tom Willander, Aatu Raty, Jonathan Lekkerimaki, Elias Pettersson

Some Van fans will think that is too much for a UFA. Generally, I would agree. But when that UFA is 2nd in the NHL in expected goals and has a points / 60 between Draisaitl and Rantanen, you're going to have to pay a lot.

Now if the Pens fall off and don't think they will make the playoffs the price would drop to something like:
1st, one of those guys above, a top 10 prospect (like Karlsson or Kudryavtsev), and Kuzmenko (for cap reasons).

I get that a lot of Vancouver fans will not like this post. But an elite player costs a lot.


You aren’t getting Lekkerimakki or Willander for a pending UFA. A 1st + one or maybe two of Raty/Podz/Hoglander/Brzustewicz/D Petey is a much more likely return. I personally wouldn’t give more than a 1st, one of those guys, and a lower prospect/mid round pick
4 janv. à 15 h 29
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You aren’t getting Lekkerimakki or Willander for a pending UFA. A 1st + one or maybe two of Raty/Podz/Hoglander/Brzustewicz/D Petey is a much more likely return. I personally wouldn’t give more than a 1st, one of those guys, and a lower prospect/mid round pick


When the Pens acquired Marian Hossa they traded a 1st, their #1 prospect, and two 15-20 goal scorers.

Honestly, I don't think you're off base. A 1st + Raty + Podkolzon + salary (someone like Kuzmenko). Would make sense.

Van could see it as an upgrade from Kuzmenko to Guentzel

Pit could see it as a change of scenery for Kuzmenko along with two good prospects and a low 1st.

Pit can't be seen as a pure seller, not when they want to compete with their aging core.
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