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Possible Caps Trades

Créé par: Nolan_Gooch
Équipe: 2023-24 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 2 janv. 2024
Publié: 2 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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DISCLAIMER: Just to be entirely clear, I don't see all these trades happening. In fact I really don't see most of these trades happening. I just want input on which trades are the most likely to happen and the ones that are most fair.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
CBJ
  1. Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
2.
ANA
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny (2 800 000 $ retained)
  2. Stevenson, Clay
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (WSH)
3.
WSH
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Dowd, Nic
  2. van Riemsdyk, Trevor (930 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
4.
ARI
  1. Malenstyn, Beck
  2. Mantha, Anthony
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (COL)
5.
FLA
  1. Milano, Sonny
  2. Phillips, Matthew
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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Logo de PHI
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2025
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Logo de WSH
Logo de WSH
Logo de WSH
Logo de WSH
2026
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Logo de WSH
Logo de WSH
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $76 845 000 $20 000 $315 000 $6 655 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Capitals de Washington
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Capitals de Washington
789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
863 333 $863 333 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance232 500 $$232K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
925 000 $925 000 $
AD
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 675 000 $2 675 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 062 500 $2 062 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
9 200 000 $9 200 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 000 000 $$2M)
AG
NMC
UFA - 1

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2 janv. à 9 h 56
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Every single one of these trades are horrendous for the Caps except the PHI trade.

Sandin>Provorov let alone throwing in a 2nd.
Strome is a mediocre middle 6 center, you're giving up a 1st and the best goalie in the AHL and potential future great NHLr in Stevenson.
Mantha>Crouse let alone throwing in a 2nd.
Caps are giving up a 1st and a good middle 6 wingers for 2 bottom 6 wingers in Stenlund and Luostarinen?
2 janv. à 10 h 3
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I would certainly think about trading Strome for that return

Only problem I’d see is that the 1st isn’t until 2026
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2 janv. à 10 h 9
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I would certainly think about trading Strome for that return

Only problem I’d see is that the 1st isn’t until 2026


It's a steal for ANA for Stevenson alone. Kid is going to be great.
2 janv. à 10 h 16
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Every single one of these trades are horrendous for the Caps except the PHI trade.

Sandin>Provorov let alone throwing in a 2nd.
Strome is a mediocre middle 6 center, you're giving up a 1st and the best goalie in the AHL and potential future great NHLr in Stevenson.
Mantha>Crouse let alone throwing in a 2nd.
Caps are giving up a 1st and a good middle 6 wingers for 2 bottom 6 wingers in Stenlund and Luostarinen?


sandin is a good young defensemen but provorov has more offensive skill and is still sorta young

Strome currently has 20 points on the season and the ducks are one of the very few teams that have the ability to take on most of Kuzy's contract. so the picks and Stevenson are there to sweeten the cap dump.

No, Mantha is not better than Crouse. Mantha has (11 goals, 5 assists) and Crouse has (16 goals, 7 assists). Crouse literally has as many goals than Mantha has points this season. Crouse is 26 and Mantha is 30. Crouse is a younger, cheaper and more offensively talented player who's just starting to find his game.

And the Florida trade is trading 2 middle six wingers with low point totals and poor play this season for 2 bottom six wingers with more points to strengthen our depth/ 4th line.
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2 janv. à 10 h 16
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Would do the Frost deal in a heartbeat but hard hard hard passes on the rest of them.

This teams biggest problem is scoring and a lack of elite talent, especially at forward. I do not see them making any significant moves unless they result in an elite scorer making their way to DC. Ryan Strome, Crouse, Luostorianen are all fine players but are not elite scorers (that's even before getting into what you have as the returns for these guys). I don't even see a guy like Lindholm being a target for them for the same reason. Good 2c, probably even on a contender, but he's been an elite scorer exactly once in his career and that was when he was playing between at the time probably 2 of the 5 best offensive players in the league.

I don't really see any in-season additions that make that much sense unless someone shakes loose that wasn't expected. Does OTT move on from someone like Batherson? BUF from Cozens/Middlestadt/Tuch? PHI from Konecny? STL from Thomas or Kyrou? I highly doubt it, and even if they did I'm not sure the Caps would be able to meet the asking price, but those are the only types of guys I can see them being truly interested in. Otherwise, just wait until UFA when you can offer Nylander or Reinhart an absolute boatload of cash.
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2 janv. à 10 h 19
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Quoting: Nolan_Gooch
sandin is a good young defensemen but provorov has more offensive skill and is still sorta young

Strome currently has 20 points on the season and the ducks are one of the very few teams that have the ability to take on most of Kuzy's contract. so the picks and Stevenson are there to sweeten the cap dump.

No, Mantha is not better than Crouse. Mantha has (11 goals, 5 assists) and Crouse has (16 goals, 7 assists). Crouse literally has as many goals than Mantha has points this season. Crouse is 26 and Mantha is 30. Crouse is a younger, cheaper and more offensively talented player who's just starting to find his game.

And the Florida trade is trading 2 middle six wingers with low point totals and poor play this season for 2 bottom six wingers with more points to strengthen our depth/ 4th line.

it's crazy how you dont realize i just made one of the best offensive and deep teams with trades that are pretty realistic.
2 janv. à 10 h 29
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Would do the Frost deal in a heartbeat but hard hard hard passes on the rest of them.

This teams biggest problem is scoring and a lack of elite talent, especially at forward. I do not see them making any significant moves unless they result in an elite scorer making their way to DC. Ryan Strome, Crouse, Luostorianen are all fine players but are not elite scorers (that's even before getting into what you have as the returns for these guys). I don't even see a guy like Lindholm being a target for them for the same reason. Good 2c, probably even on a contender, but he's been an elite scorer exactly once in his career and that was when he was playing between at the time probably 2 of the 5 best offensive players in the league.

I don't really see any in-season additions that make that much sense unless someone shakes loose that wasn't expected. Does OTT move on from someone like Batherson? BUF from Cozens/Middlestadt/Tuch? PHI from Konecny? STL from Thomas or Kyrou? I highly doubt it, and even if they did I'm not sure the Caps would be able to meet the asking price, but those are the only types of guys I can see them being truly interested in. Otherwise, just wait until UFA when you can offer Nylander or Reinhart an absolute boatload of cash.


we don't need elite scoring/talent, we need depth scoring/talent. Our 3rd and 4th line are basically useless and i think the trades that i did are very fair for both teams and added depth in the bottom 6 and consistently good top 6 by adding Crouse and Ryan Strome.
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we don't need elite scoring/talent, we need depth scoring/talent. Our 3rd and 4th line are basically useless and i think the trades that i did are very fair for both teams and added depth in the bottom 6 and consistently good top 6 by adding Crouse and Ryan Strome.


Our top scorer has 21 points in 34 games. We need elite scoring talent. Ryan Strome is a career .55 ppg player, Lawson Crouse is at .38.

You make the bottom 6 better not by replacing the current bottom 6 players with other bottom 6 players but by getting actual top-line talents and letting everyone else play down a role.
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Quoting: Nolan_Gooch
sandin is a good young defensemen but provorov has more offensive skill and is still sorta young

Strome currently has 20 points on the season and the ducks are one of the very few teams that have the ability to take on most of Kuzy's contract. so the picks and Stevenson are there to sweeten the cap dump.

No, Mantha is not better than Crouse. Mantha has (11 goals, 5 assists) and Crouse has (16 goals, 7 assists). Crouse literally has as many goals than Mantha has points this season. Crouse is 26 and Mantha is 30. Crouse is a younger, cheaper and more offensively talented player who's just starting to find his game.

And the Florida trade is trading 2 middle six wingers with low point totals and poor play this season for 2 bottom six wingers with more points to strengthen our depth/ 4th line.


Sandin is better, younger, cheaper and isn't homophobic. Caps aren't doing that.

Strome plays on the wing of Zegras has always had bad to mediocre impact numbers. He's a middle 6 player. The Caps don't need more of those guys.

Crouse is good but he's playing top 6 and gets PP time. He has 1 more 5v5 point than Mantha. Mantha plays 3rd line and gets little to no PP time. They're basically the same player, not paying the extra 2nd for the same thing. You can say Crouse is younger but Mantha is better analytically so it's a wash.

Even if you believe what you said about the FLA trade (Milano is as good or better than those 2), slightly upgrading your bottom 6 should never involve a 1st round pick, ever.
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Columbus accepts with some reluctance, since Provorov is currently the 1D while Werenski is out again, but that's an offer they cannot refuse. Not sure why Washington would even entertain it, except that Provorov is an assist machine and they're not getting any kind of offense from their blue line.
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Sandin is better, younger, cheaper and isn't homophobic. Caps aren't doing that.

Strome plays on the wing of Zegras has always had bad to mediocre impact numbers. He's a middle 6 player. The Caps don't need more of those guys.

Crouse is good but he's playing top 6 and gets PP time. He has 1 more 5v5 point than Mantha. Mantha plays 3rd line and gets little to no PP time. They're basically the same player, not paying the extra 2nd for the same thing. You can say Crouse is younger but Mantha is better analytically so it's a wash.

Even if you believe what you said about the FLA trade (Milano is as good or better than those 2), slightly upgrading your bottom 6 should never involve a 1st round pick, ever.


If you think anyone cares about Provorovs beliefs, you're a clown. He was defending his religion like everyone should have the ability to.

Zegras has been out and has only produced 5 points before his injury and yet strome has still put up 20 points(3 goals, 17 assists). Strome is embracing a playmaker style of play which could be what ovi needs to heat up again.

You're right about the Crouse and Mantha trade but i still think its a great trade so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Milano is injured and even before his injury he wasn't playing great. The 1st is probably a bit to much but i do stand by this deal due to the fact they are good and young depth players that could move up.
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It's a steal for ANA for Stevenson alone. Kid is going to be great.


Yeah I have no clue who he is honestly
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Yeah I have no clue who he is honestly


he's a AHL goalie prospect that the caps have that currently has a 1.70 GAA and a .937 SV% in 16 games
2 janv. à 11 h 8
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Quoting: Nolan_Gooch
If you think anyone cares about Provorovs beliefs, you're a clown. He was defending his religion like everyone should have the ability to.

Zegras has been out and has only produced 5 points before his injury and yet strome has still put up 20 points(3 goals, 17 assists). Strome is embracing a playmaker style of play which could be what ovi needs to heat up again.

You're right about the Crouse and Mantha trade but i still think its a great trade so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Milano is injured and even before his injury he wasn't playing great. The 1st is probably a bit to much but i do stand by this deal due to the fact they are good and young depth players that could move up.


Provorov is also bad at hockey that's the main point.

We have plenty of playmakers in Strome and Kuz that can feed Ovi. Playmaking isn't the issue. Again, R Strome is a fine middle 6 winger but again we don't need that. Only thing this team needs is a legit top 6 line player. All your trades are for meh players. Caps are giving up way too much for such a little (if any) improvement.
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Every single one of these trades are horrendous for the Caps except the PHI trade.

Sandin>Provorov let alone throwing in a 2nd.
Strome is a mediocre middle 6 center, you're giving up a 1st and the best goalie in the AHL and potential future great NHLr in Stevenson.
Mantha>Crouse let alone throwing in a 2nd.
Caps are giving up a 1st and a good middle 6 wingers for 2 bottom 6 wingers in Stenlund and Luostarinen?


mantha>crouse OK AZ has no wants for that trade anyway you can keep mantha
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mantha>crouse OK AZ has no wants for that trade anyway you can keep mantha


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So the Flyers give up the best player in the deal, the youngest player in the deal, and have to attach a higher pick?

Easy no.

Frost may occasionally be in Torts' crosshairs, but he isn't now, and that doesn't mean we'd trade him for elderly table scraps within the division.
 
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