You will see. Yzerman isn't the best GM in hockey. He's an old school guy who thinks he's better than he is.

You keep saying that I'll see, but have produced no evidence to substantiate your claim. Am I supposed to take your word for it, because you know more about teams you don't watch, players you don't watch, and staff you don't follow compared to those who actually do?
Nowhere in this thread has it been said that Yzerman is the best GM in hockey. Nowhere in any of his interviews has he said that he's the best GM in hockey. Do you have anything proving otherwise?

It will take time man. I am talking about the future. Detroit is not going to progress like you guys think it will.

So, you can't back up your claims with evidence and we have to trust in you, because you clearly know what's going to happen?
Just for the sake of argument, how do we Detroit fans think everything will turn out?

It's pretty tough to have evidence for a future prediction. I am not sure you understand how time works

So, by your own logic, you can't substantiate any of your claims in any way and are pulling this assessment out of thin air?

Also, the best indicator of future performance is past performance. Like when Toronto tied half their cap up into four forwards, suggesting that they will manage the cap poorly in the future. When the Oilers hired a past his prime GM whose track record in the last 10 years was mediocre at best, bad at worst (Ken Holland, in case you didn't know), he went on to still be mediocre at best. Yzerman built a good team in Tampa, and the Red Wings were bordering on historically bad when he took over. Spoiler alert, they're not historically bad now, and they're trending up.

I think the credit he gets in Tampa is unfairly heaped onto his shoulders. I haven't liked his moves in Detroit and I fully expect it will prove to be a flawed rebuild. The signing of old guys will hurt him. They haven't had enough low picks. Other rebuilding teams will pass them by and they will be either bubble teams or miss the playoffs entirely. There is no way to substantiate that until it happens. It's called a prediction. You do understand what that is right?

Lol I didn't even read the second half of your statement. Just taking cheap chirps at the leafs is rich.

And why was the credit unfairly given to him? He was the GM, he brought in the staff, execs, coaches, and players. Do you think he just sat there while everyone else did everything?
You've listed three moves that were "bad" and nothing else. You haven't mentioned how half of his draft picks in Detroit have overperformed their draft position, the fleecings of trades (Fabbri for Jacob De La Rose, Walman and a 2nd for Nick Leddy, Bertuzzi (for a first) and spare parts for Alex DeBrincat, Hronek for 3 draft picks, one of which is setting records in the SHL, by the way). Did any of that factor into your prediction? Or that all of the "old guys (of which, Perron was by far the oldest, at 34) are all off the books in 4 years or less. Not every move he's made has been good, but he's made far more good moves than bad.

Every bit of information you've placed into your "prediction" is baseless, incomplete speculation lacking any credible evidence, context or insight. Anything you have provided has been easily disproven through basic google searches. Your "prediction," quite frankly, sucks. You might as well just say you think Yzerman is bad because he isn't working for the Leafs.

How is it cheap? It's literally a self-inflicted wound. And it happened. And they're in cap hell because of it.

Whatever dude this is just silly

Yes, it is silly. It's silly that you make definitive statements about topics you clearly have little to no understanding of. It's silly that nearly all of the statistics and historical information you spout is not only inaccurate, but easily discovered through simple google searches or a click away from the homepage here. It's silly that you are unable to elaborate on any of the opinions you've presented outside of "whatever," "this is silly," or "you're attacking the Leafs." It's silly that you either refuse to acknowledge when you're wrong, or double down after already having been proven wrong.
Or maybe it's silly of me to expect anything else from you, considering this is par for the course on this website. Maybe it's silly of me to think that proving you wrong would prompt you to maybe start doing some research once in awhile so you can actually be informed on your opinions. Or, maybe silliest of all, that conversing with you was at all worth any amount of time.

I promise you, I didn't read any of this.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, I suppose.
Anyways, since it seems the plot has been lost, we should probably conclude this little discussion. Maybe we can have a productive hockey conversation eventually. Good day.