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Missing playoff and finally rebuilding

Créé par: vbolshakov
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 9 déc. 2023
Publié: 9 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
CONDITION: The Pens see that they are clearly out of the 2024 playoff Retooling did not work. So, it's time to rebuild.

Trades:

- 4th+ round peaks' trades - there could be any teams.

- Guentzel's trade. I assume Minnesota makes it to the 2024 playoff. So, they need (1) offense enforesment (Guentzel) with 50% salary retention, (2) to move expensive Fleury contract and (3) get bottom line players that Minnesota likes. Additionally, Minnesota has enough money to re-sign Guentzel to a 7-year contract (7x9MM). For doing that they will pay: 1st round (they have a lot of prospects) and 2 prospects: Heidt and Hunt.

- Pettersson's trade: Toronto needs him for 2 years with only 2MM under the cap. They will also trade Reaves (singing mistake) to free up cap space. Pens will buyout Reaves in summer 2024. Robertson and late 1st peak is a fair price for this package.

Others who will not be traded:

- Crosby will stay no matter what

- Malkin and Letang will leave only if they want. Malkin still can be a really good 2C for Colorado, Boston, Florida, Columbus. Letang can retire to Habs. But anyway, they will not move anywhere this season.

- Smith, Rust, Rakell are too ... old to move without salary retention. I would rather use retention spots for Guentzel and Pettersson as Pens can get better prospects/peaks.

- EK67 - may be traded in summer 2024 with 50% salary retention to Carolina, Florida or Toronto.
Transactions
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PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (COL)
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  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
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  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
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  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
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  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Heidt, Riley [Liste de réserve]
  3. Hunt, Daemon
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
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PIT
  1. Reaves, Ryan
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Pettersson, Marcus (2 000 000 $ retained)
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9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 17
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Why is Minnesota trading away their 1st here ?
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 24
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Quoting: Czu8iks
Why is Minnesota trading away their 1st here ?


yes, I also think that 2nd round instead of 1st will be a fair price.

- Guentzel + retention equals to 1st + good prospect.
- Fleury has a negative price, Nedeljkovic himeself is a 3rd round peak. So, Fleury to Nedeljkovic makes another second round.
- I ask hear for the 1st round, 1 good prospect (Hunt), 1 'good potential' (Heidt) and also give back 2 bottom-lines that will play well in Minnesota system.
- Minnesota needs to make the team stronger. They don't need their 1st round here as they have enough prospects that they struggle moving to the 1st team.
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 41
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NJD will offer you more for Pettersson retained.

For 2 years with retention

1st, 2nd, and either another 3rd or any prospect not named nemec, hughes, holtz, or casey. And you could probably convince me to go higher
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9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 51
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Florida passes, we already have a trillion bottom depth LD’s and we rather give up a pick for help else.
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9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 0
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Florida passes, we already have a trillion bottom depth LD’s and we rather give up a pick for help else.


Shea plays RD this season, but any way, for 4th+ round there could be any team.
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 10
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This team should've pursued a younger direction in 2021
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 21
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yes, I also think that 2nd round instead of 1st will be a fair price.

- Guentzel + retention equals to 1st + good prospect.
- Fleury has a negative price, Nedeljkovic himeself is a 3rd round peak. So, Fleury to Nedeljkovic makes another second round.
- I ask hear for the 1st round, 1 good prospect (Hunt), 1 'good potential' (Heidt) and also give back 2 bottom-lines that will play well in Minnesota system.
- Minnesota needs to make the team stronger. They don't need their 1st round here as they have enough prospects that they struggle moving to the 1st team.


But he is expiring, and Minnesota is borderline playoff team, with ****load of dead cap
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: WJC_Enthusiast
This team should've pursued a younger direction in 2021


I agree but it is what it is.
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 29
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I highly doubt leafs accept that
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 31
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I highly doubt leafs accept that


Pettersson>>>>>McCabe and this is less than you paid for Mccabe at 2
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 34
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Pettersson>>>>>McCabe and this is less than you paid for Mccabe at 2


It’s more actually Robertson we value at a first now and we can’t lose him he’s too valuable, sorry
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 37
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Pens decline the leafs. If they're going to rebuild they're not going to take on that Reavo contract. Would be plenty of teams in for Petty.

I don't think Minn has any desire in a rental Jake. He will be high demand and most likely from a contender.

Hino/Z/DOC/Shea are not fetching those high of picks. 5th-6th more likely.
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
It’s more actually Robertson we value at a first now and we can’t lose him he’s too valuable, sorry


22 without a lot of pedigree and still not cracking the show full time on a team that could really use the depth? I certainly don't think I'd pay a 1st for him, or more than a 3rd. But even at a 1st+1st, It'd be steep fs but honestly would still be a fairish price for Pettersson at 2x2
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 40
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22 without a lot of pedigree and still not cracking the show full time on a team that could really use the depth? I certainly don't think I'd pay a 1st for him, or more than a 3rd. But even at a 1st+1st, It'd be steep fs but honestly would still be a fairish price for Pettersson at 2x2


Yeah not gonna happen sorry
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 41
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Yeah not gonna happen sorry


Hey, I'm more than happy to take Pettersson in NJD. If he becomes even remotely available he's my number 1 target
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10 déc. 2023 à 1 h 37
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Hate to say it, just not much value in Pittsburgh. Its like going to Garage sales and not buying anything regardless how cheap it is, because its garbage. Depressing.
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